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For instructions on how to nominate an article, see Template:DYK nomination header § Instructions for nominators.
"Template:Did you know nominations" redirects here. For the list of approved nominations, see Template talk:Did you know/Approved.

This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page with a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area and then promoted into the Queue. To update this page, purge it.

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
July 18 3 1
July 19 1
July 25 1 1
July 26 1
July 27 1 1
July 28 4
July 29 2
July 30 1 1
August 1 3 1
August 3 1
August 4 1
August 5 4 1
August 6 4 2
August 7 4 4
August 8 2 1
August 9 1
August 10 8 5
August 11 5 2
August 12 4 4
August 13 2 2
August 14 9 6
August 15 6 5
August 16 6 3
August 17 8 4
August 18 9 8
August 19 7 3
August 20 5 3
August 21 2 1
August 22 5 4
August 23 9 3
August 24 7 1
August 25 10 4
August 26 5 2
August 27 13 9
August 28 14 6
August 29 16 6
August 30 21 7
August 31 9 6
September 1 7 5
September 2 9 4
September 3 7 3
September 4 7 5
September 5 5 3
September 6 8 4
September 7 10 1
September 8 6 2
September 9 6
September 10 5
September 11 4
September 12 9
September 13
Total 297 134
Last updated 12:48, 13 September 2024 UTC
Current time is 14:10, 13 September 2024 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators

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If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing. Further information can be found at the DYK guidelines.

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Frequently asked questions

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How do I write an interesting hook?

Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.

When will my nomination be reviewed?

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first, it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions below).

Where is my hook?

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.


Instructions for reviewers

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Main page: Wikipedia:Did you know/Reviewing guide

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING  :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.
  • After the nomination is approved, a bot will automatically list the nomination page on Template talk:Did you know/Approved.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Advanced procedures

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How to promote an accepted hook

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At-a-glance instructions on how to promote an approved hook to a prep area
Check list for nomination review completeness
  1. Select a hook from the approved nominations page that has one of these ticks at the bottom post: .
  2. Check to make sure basic review requirements were completed.
    • Any outstanding issue following needs to be addressed before promoting.
  3. Check the article history for any substantive changes since it was nominated or reviewed.
  4. Images for the lead slot must be freely licensed. Fair-use images are not permitted. Images loaded on Commons that appear on the Main Page are automatically protected by KrinkleBot.
  5. Hook must be stated in both the article and source (which must be cited at the end of the article sentence where stated).
  6. Hook should make sense grammatically.
  7. Try to vary subject matters within each prep area.
  8. Try to select a funny, quirky or otherwise upbeat hook for the last or bottom hook in the set.
Steps to add a hook to prep
  • In one tab, open the nomination page of the hook you want to promote.
  • In a second tab, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.

Wanna skip all this fuss? Install WP:PSHAW instead! Does most of the heavy lifting for ya :)

  1. For hooks held for specific dates, refer to "Local update times" section on DYK Queue.
    • Completed Prep area number sets will be promoted by an administrator to corresponding Queue number.
  2. Copy and paste the hook into a chosen slot.
    • Make sure there's a space between ... and that, and a ? at the end.
    • Check that there's a bold link to the article.
  3. If it's the lead (first) hook, paste the image where indicated at the top of the template.
  4. Copy and paste ALL the credit information (the {{DYKmake}} and {{DYKnom}} templates) at the bottom
  5. Check your work in the prep's Preview mode.
    • At the bottom under "Credits", to the right of each article should have the link "View nom subpage" ; if not, a subpage parameter will need to be added to the DYKmake.
  6. Save the Prep page.
Closing the DYK nomination page
  1. At the upper left
    • Change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • Change |passed= to |passed=yes
  2. At the bottom
    • Just above the line containing

      }}<!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->

      insert a new, separate line containing one of the following:
      To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
      To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
      To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
      To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
      To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
      To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
      To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]
    • Also paste the same thing into the edit summary.
  3. Check in Preview mode. Make sure everything is against a pale blue background (nothing outside) and there are no stray characters, like }}, at the top or bottom.
  4. Save.

For more information, please see T:TDYK#How to promote an accepted hook.

Handy copy sources:

  • To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]

How to remove a rejected hook

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  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue

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  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name

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  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations

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Older nominations

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Articles created/expanded on July 18

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David Yong

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Created by Tails Wx (talk) and Jeraxmoira (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 23 past nominations.

~ Tails Wx 00:23, 18 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation

QPQ: No - Not done
Overall: I want to suggest linking "an entertainment agency" and "its only artist" to their respective articles, but not sure if that would be overlinking. Just a thought—otherwise all looks good. I prefer ALT0, just waiting for QPQ now. Bsoyka (t • c • g) 01:45, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

... in promoting a BLP hook when there is new (negative) development? While this is regarding a specific DYK nom, I generally have been inactive in the DYK area hence a lack of knowledge of the norms on DYK reviewing on my part, thus the question here. This is also at no fault of anyone involved in the DYK item thus far. DYK/David Yong was reviewed and approved in July 2024. Almost one month later now in August, he was recently arrested and charged in Singapore for some financial crimes. In this circumstance, will the BLP hook be queued for the Main Page still? If so, which hook will be used? ALT0 or ALT1? – robertsky (talk) 18:36, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm, interesting question. Are you suggesting a new hook based on this new event, or just wondering how it would affect the currently approved hook(s)? In either case, let me suggest what I think is the best way forward; I can reopen the nomination then you should post your question there where more people can see it. If everybody's happy, somebody will re-approve it. Does that sound like a reasonable plan? RoySmith (talk) 19:03, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yeah, @Tails Wx, Jeraxmoira, and Bsoyka: RoySmith (talk) 19:05, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not leaning in a particular direction here—I support whatever the community decides. I agree that this is probably a good conversation to have on the nomination page. Bsoyka (t • c • g) 19:23, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just wondering how it would affect the currently approved hook(s) in general... although a piece of new information does impact on ALT1. Your suggestion is sound and a discussion can be carried out there. – robertsky (talk) 19:28, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • From the discussion above: I definitely do think that the recent news does impact ALT1, though ALT0 doesn't seem to be impacted by this, other than the mention of Yong. The reviewer, Bsoyka, did prefer ALT0, and I almost don't see a problem with it being accepted, other than given the recent news on Yong's financial problems, which does make me re-think that for a bit. ~ Tails Wx 03:06, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:DYKBLP suggests avoiding undue attention on contentious information, but negative developments do not disqualify a subject from being on DYK as long as BLP and other guidelines/policies are followed. As long as the article is updated, and given how Yong is not primarily known for the recent incident, I can't see how the latest incident should prevent this from being promoted with ALT0. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:35, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My only concern is ALT1. I am ambivalent about the rest. – robertsky (talk) 16:40, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't find ALT0 interesting either @Tails Wx:. My suggestion would be something along the lines of "that before David Yong mounted a music career, he had been the chief executive officer of a timber firm".--Launchballer 07:32, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I've rephrased your suggested hook a bit and added ALT2 above. ~ Tails Wx 03:37, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Then we need another reviewer to tick it off.--Launchballer 07:40, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm unsure about the timeframe for ALT2. Yong is cited as expanding EGH beyond timber trading "early in his career" but no date is stated. He is cited as starting a music career in 2021, but is that definitively later than "early in his career". The wording is not ideal here. I have struck ALT1 since it is negative in aspect. I have struck ALT0 since it is boring. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 18:44, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:Flibirigit, I have updated the early life section. Let me know if it needs more details. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 19:53, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Was Yong the CEO of the timber firm in 2014? The wording is not clear when he became the CEO, and thus not clear if it is before 2021 when he began a music career. Flibirigit (talk) 20:52, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3: ...that Singaporean former lawyer David Yong learned Korean and moved to South Korea to become a K-pop star? Bremps... 07:03, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Waiting on a response to my question on ALT2 before going ahead with ALT3. Flibirigit (talk) 11:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

comment: the personal life section says that he lives in the tallest tower in Seoul. the source used to support it is... interesting:

The Beatles sang this song ages ago, and when you see David Yong all peacocked up in Celine jackets, and see his story unravel in front of us, you feel sorry for him. He’s a Singaporean living in Korea, and says his family has timber businesses in Cambodia and other SE Asian countries. He has opened an Entertainment business in Korea (since K-dramas are internationally big). He lives in the tallest tower in Seoul, has designer clothing on racks, designer bags in his living room and yes a money counting machine.

is this really a good source? it doesn't even say what the tallest tower is. ltbdl☃ (talk) 13:00, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Khalji Revolution

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Sultan Jalaluddin Khalji enthroned following the Khalji Revolution
Sultan Jalaluddin Khalji enthroned following the Khalji Revolution
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Improved to Good Article status by Noorullah21 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Noorullah (talk) 03:06, 18 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Not a review, but just wanted to leave some alts:
ALT1: ...that during the Khalji Revolution, the sultan Qaiqabad was wrapped in a carpet and thrown into the Yamuna river?
ALT2: ...that the child sultan Shamsuddin Kayumars was imprisoned and deposed as a result of the Khalji Revolution?
Kimikel (talk) 03:31, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will review the original hook

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - The hook is mentioned in the lead, as a summary of things explained in greater detail in the article. It has no reference (the lead does not need it), but the hook is then no mentioned in any single referenced sentence.
  • Interesting: Yes
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: I changed the licence of File:Maginary portrait of Sultan Firuz Khalji, Khwaja Hasan, and a dervish..jpg from PD-ART-70 to PD-ArT-100 (it is from 1640) Cambalachero (talk) 23:35, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Could do one of the alt's suggested instead then. Noorullah (talk) 01:07, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The two ALT hooks are referenced as part of a reference that covers a whole paragraph. The reference should be placed specifically on the sentence being used, even if repetitive. I may accept the article anyway, but then someone else would roll it back and ask the same thing, so let's do it right from the start. Cambalachero (talk) 19:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Noorullah21: Please address the above.--Launchballer 20:24, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, forgot about this, will try to come up with some other hooks soon. Noorullah (talk) 23:01, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will close this if this isn't fixed in the next 24 hours @Noorullah21:.--Launchballer 09:10, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What about this: ...that the Khalji Revolution in 1290 led to the overthrow Turkic Mamluk Dynasty in the Delhi Sultanate, and the rise of the Turko-Afghan Khalji Dynasty? Main source: [2]
(This is an effective repeat of the first hook, but I've updated the article to include references relevant to it so that it's not standalone in the lead itself). Noorullah (talk) 23:08, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 19

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Max Greyserman

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or ALT1:

  • ... that PGA Tour golfer Max Greyserman and his brother Reed are the first brothers to win the New Jersey Amateur Championship?

or ALT2:

  • ... that a year before golfer Max Greyserman earned his first PGA Tour card, he considered a different career path?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7000:2101:AA00:A91E:FA5D:EAB2:D6B0 (talk) 08:56, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • Reviewed: Masada myth
    • Comment: Nominated on behalf of an IP editor who will, as usual, provide the QPQ.
Moved to mainspace by Schwede66 (talk) and 2603:7000:2101:AA00:A91E:FA5D:EAB2:D6B0 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 150 past nominations.

Schwede66 08:39, 20 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: 8 of the 16 citations were checked for verification and close paraphrasing; no issues arose. I prefer ALT2 because the focus is on the subject of the article. ALT1 may mention a record being set, but the PGA Tour is more prestigious than the New Jersey Amateur Championship, so I still prefer ALT2. Yue🌙 17:57, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Sigh, I forgot to add an icon. The WP:ERRORS discussion was essentially A huge portion of this article rests on sources connected to the subject, like his old university and the PGA and the U.S. Open – WP:RS requires that articles be based on independent sources. Also, a significant portion of the article is WP:PROSELINE statistics, which read really awkwardly and make the article feel half-finished. RoySmith (talk) 18:37, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Schwede66: Please address the above.--Launchballer 15:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I will see if I can address Roy's concerns over the next few days. Thank you. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:1979:BEF5:5AEC:99F4 (talk) 20:15, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Roy. While I have some views as to the difference between league sources and team or self-published sources as to independence, I've made revisions to the article that I hope will address your concern sufficiently. If not let me know, and I will try to do more. And explain what I at least see as the difference mentioned, and why that difference is important to the goal of wp:errors. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:ECDF:78AA:BB1B:9EDE (talk) 04:04, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:PROSELINE to understand the problem with the Amateur career and Professional career sections. @Theleekycauldron: who raised the original issue at WP:ERRORS.— Preceding unsigned comment added by RoySmith (talk • contribs)

  • Don't think I have much to add; some positive changes in the article, but i'd still like to see a reduction in the non-independent sources. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 21:40, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • OK. I'll seek to make some further positive changes to the article along the lines requested to reduce sourcing to league publication. Also, understanding that proseline is an essay, I'll see what more can be done there. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:A13D:8F1E:26A2:8F66 (talk) 09:43, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • theleekycauldron I've sought to make further positive changes to the article along the lines requested. Although I would be remiss if I did not point out that I still after consideration believe that there is a great difference between a source that is not independent because it is an autobiography, or even the site of a team, and on the other hand a site of the official WP-accepted source of statistics for a league. Treating them all the same does, I expect, lead us to stray somewhat from the goal of the rule in the first place - which is to avoid COI sourcing. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:F485:C373:DBEC:EA24 (talk) 07:39, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • at this point, I think it's best for me to leave this to an independent reviewer. I will say briefly that I strongly disagree with your view of the independence of leagues from their players, especially as it concerns non-team sports. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:36, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • A new reviewer seems like an apt suggestion. Thanks. How do we request that?

As to your last point, there are of course very few PGA refs at this point. Notably few, as a percentage of refs in the article. And given that the PGA is the official source for bland golf information such as "He ranked fifth on the Tour in putting average," and "he came in 4th at competition x," which is how it's used as a ref here, I'm frankly still not seeing the purpose of the "independent source" rule in its application here - unless you think that the PGA stats are not to be relied upon, unless ESPN or some other RS reports them. Golf Magazine is obtaining that information from another source - it does not generate that information itself - the same as MLB.com and NFL.com in those sports. That strikes me as perhaps somewhat short of a COI concern; and COI is no doubt the basis for the rule in the first place. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:4569:133E:18AA:23EF (talk) 02:13, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New reviewer needed. Schwede66 16:56, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on July 26

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Poll (parrot)

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Created by Di (they-them) (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 16 past nominations.

Di (they-them) (talk) 02:33, 26 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • - Age and length are fine. No copvio/plagiarism concerns (Earwig = 26% but it's a quote). The hook is entertaining, and reliably sourced. I think it's good to go. KJP1 (talk) 05:55, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Di (they-them): Please address the contents of Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive 201#Prep 6: Poll (parrot) (nom).--Launchballer 20:28, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: I believe I already addressed the concerns in the discussion. The sources cited are reliable and the hook is confirmed by the sources. Di (they-them) (talk) 20:38, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at the article, I agree. I just tried to rearrange the article so that it would not deserve {{lead extra info}}, but did not see the words "African grey" in either of the sources in the lead. I think this should be added to the body and cited.--Launchballer 08:04, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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Center squeeze

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Distribution of winning candidates under RCV, showing a bias towards extremes
Distribution of winning candidates under RCV, showing a bias towards extremes
Created by Closed Limelike Curves (talk) and Jasavina (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 01:11, 3 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

I've done some formatting to the hooks which may or may not rectify your concerns.--Launchballer 12:43, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, the new hooks should work. Given how the hooks based on examples are not only specific but may require specialist knowledge, I've struck them. The nom is ready for a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:45, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Closed Limelike Curves: There are huge amounts of unsourced content in this! Please fix them. When you've done that, I will give this a proper review.--Launchballer 11:07, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: Fixed. – Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 00:57, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I still see unsourced content.--Launchballer 07:42, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

J1407b

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Illustration of a brown dwarf surrounded by a protoplanetary disk
Illustration of a brown dwarf surrounded by a protoplanetary disk
  • Source: "Issues with the stability of any rings combined with the lack of detection of another eclipse, suggests that J1407b may not be bound to J1407." Mentel, R. T.; et al. (2018). "Constraining the period of the ringed secondary companion to the young star J1407 with photographic plates". Astronomy & Astrophysics.; "...the object we called J1407b is floating freely through the Galaxy, and just happened to pass in front of a very young star." Kenworthy, M. A. J1407b. (2024)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/White bear of Henry III
  • Comment: The J1407b article was converted from redirect into article as a result of a split from the V1400 Centauri article. I began slowly expanding V1400 Centauri on 8 July 2024, but I did not add much to the J1407b section until 24 July 2024. As of today, it's been 5 days since I significantly expanded the J1407b section. Also, the image is optional; I'm fine whether it is used or not.
Converted from a redirect by Nrco0e (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 20:21, 29 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment: @Nrco0e: Hey, nice work on this article. I just took a look at your previous DYK entries, and this one is slightly different. Per WP:DYKHOOK, "The hook should include a definite fact that is unlikely to change, and citations in the article that are used to support the hook fact must verify the hook and be reliable." Do we know for a fact that J1407b might be a free-floating planet or a brown dwarf? It doesn't seem so. Your current version says it is not a brown dwarf. This hook also gives the impression of WP:CRYSTAL. What do you think? Can you come up with other hooks or do you personally believe this follows the rules? Viriditas (talk) 22:01, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am actually okay with the hook. Brown dwarf seems to not be ruled out and the crucial word "might" makes it facilely correct whether or not it is actually this way or that! There is even a small chance that this thing is just an extremely eccentric orbit, though the chances of this are slim to none. :) jps (talk) 22:31, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ජපස: I'm with you. The problem is that the lead of the article currently says "Mamajek's team initially hypothesized that J1407b is an exoplanet or brown dwarf orbiting the star, but that has since been disfavored by later studies", so if we run this hook it will sound incorrect. Could you maybe take a look at the article when you have some time and make any necessary adjustments or propose a new hook? There's also the slight problem that DYK tends to favor hooks that consist of facts that don't change. Thanks, and there's no hurry on any of this. Viriditas (talk) 22:34, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, you mean because someone might think get confused and think the brown dwarf was not free-floating? It is the orbit that is disfavored as opposed to the identification of the object's planet vs. brown dwarf status. jps (talk) 22:47, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Right. Any way to clarify that? Viriditas (talk) 22:50, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that when J1407b (which is either an exoplanet or brown dwarf) was discovered, it was thought likely to be orbiting the star V1400 Centauri, but current evidence implies it is more likely free-floating? jps (talk) 23:02, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ජපස and Viriditas: Hi, yes, I've been really busy with school and other personal matters, so I apologize for the delay. jps, I think your hook is good, but I think it needs to mention that J1407b has a disk/ring system, since that is what J1407b is most known for. In that case, perhaps you can say this below?
... that when J1407b (a ringed exoplanet or brown dwarf) was discovered, it was thought to be orbiting the star V1400 Centauri, but current evidence implies it is more likely free-floating?
I feel like that the parenthetical part of this hook can be eliminated to make it more concise (i.e. say "when the ringed exoplanet or brown dwarf J1407b was discovered"), but I'm not sure if it flows any better, so I'd like to hear what you two think. Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 00:44, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, this is what we call the "riffing" stage. Parentheticals aren’t really allowed in hooks. Viriditas (talk) 01:09, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think we should stick with one or the other. Personally, if I had to choose, I would not say anything about the rings/disk. The lack of a repeated transit is more interesting. But, alternatively, you could say something like "... that J1407b is either a brown dwarf with a protoplanetary disk or a ringed exoplanet." jps (talk) 01:28, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Adding below. Please change or add as necessary. Viriditas (talk) 21:17, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note, the proposed caption for the image is likely too long and needs to be trimmed. Viriditas (talk) 21:20, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Viriditas: I'm leaning towards ALT1. The lede of the J1407b article states it is a substellar object (an umbrella term including exoplanets and brown dwarfs), so I think ALT2 would be confusing to the layman. I did change the wording of ALT2 for clarity since the original sounded like J1407b had either a disk or ringed exoplanet, although it still doesn't resolve this aforementioned issue. Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 23:00, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. Can you please trim the lead image caption? I don't think they will allow a long caption like that. Viriditas (talk) 23:03, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Viriditas: How short does the caption have to be? Would "Illustration of a brown dwarf surrounded by a protoplanetary disk" be enough or does that caption sound too unrelated to the subject? If the latter is an issue, would it work to include "like J1407b" somewhere in the caption? Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 23:11, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure, but "Illustration of a brown dwarf surrounded by a protoplanetary disk" sounds perfect to me, and if there's a problem, others will deal with it. Even better would be "Illus. of a brown dwarf surrounded by a protoplanetary disk" but I don't know if that's gospel. Viriditas (talk) 23:26, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Got it, I've changed the caption. Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 23:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Nrco0e and ජපස: Earwig doesn't like this: Mark J. Pecaut, a then-graduate student under the supervision of Eric E. Mamajek at the University of Rochester discovered... Can you paraphrase and reword? Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 01:57, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Seems like excessive detail to me. The names of discoverers are also a bit of a throwback. Unless there was much mention in the media or something about attributing the discovery, it devalues the team nature of how science is actually done. jps (talk) 10:48, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Good point. I will look during my second read through. Do you think the lead section is too dense for the general reader? I know the body is, but it's not too difficult to get through. My only issue is that some of it was kind of boring and I thought the prose could be a touch more exciting particularly in terms of summarizing each section in the first sentence, so the reader knows what's coming and is prepared for the details. I would like to close this soon so I'm going to try and expedite this review. Has everyone chosen the best hook? Viriditas (talk) 20:12, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @ජපස: Can you clarify what you mean by "devalues the team nature of how science is actually done"? I mention Pecaut and Mamajek in the article because that's what Kenworthy says in his website (ref 8). Other news sources from 2012 explicitly say Pecaut and Mamajek discovered the eclipse.[3][4] I mention the other collaborators of Pecaut and Mamajek in the sentences about the conference and journal paper because that's where they first appear in. Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 17:00, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh, don't read too much into it. The game is to attribute to one or two people these sorts of discoveries, but we stand on the shoulders of giants. I don't object to you identifying these two as the discoverers. For our purposes, they are. It's just that discovery provenance is caught up in a lot of problematic narratives associated with science, "discovery", and the like. In any case, it's not that big of a deal. Just a thought that perhaps we don't necessarily need to mention who discovered it in a hook. jps (talk) 17:17, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, alright. Thanks for clearing it up.Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 17:31, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @ජපස: I don't think I'd vote for any hook that mentions the discoverers, and none of the proposed hooks do, so that's kind of a moot point. I suggest we move discussions about the general ethics of science to somewhere else (this thread is getting long enough by itself). Renerpho (talk) 03:27, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Viriditas: Reworded the sentence. Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 17:04, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lead: It was first detected by telescopes of the Super Wide Angle Search for Planets (SuperWASP) and All Sky Automated Survey (ASAS) projects in April–June 2007. Any reason to include the "April-June" part and just say 2007 instead? Works better for the reader, and there's no reason to know the months here, is there? Viriditas (talk) 02:04, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Astronomers Mark Pecaut and Eric Mamajek Do we really need a link to astronomers here? Viriditas (talk) 02:05, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I would say "no". jps (talk) 10:49, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I changed it to "team of astronomers". @ජපස: I was just looking at various versions of this subject on other language projects. What I found interesting is how different sites treat the subject. For example, at es, the authors write "J1407b is probably a brown dwarf that is not gravitationally attracted by a star", whereas we take a more ambiguous POV. Just wondering what you think of this. Another thing I've noticed is that the other sites are also very easy to read and understand, whereas this article has somewhat unnecessarily complex and confusing language that talks around the subject rather than just directly stating the knowns and unknowns. Viriditas (talk) 21:33, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT1 seems fine to me. The Spanish article is simpler, at the expense of being wrong (working with an outdated mass estimate in the lede). I appreciate the English version for being thorough, and more careful with keeping apart the different hypothesis. Yes, that makes the article more complex, but I'll prefer that to an oversimplification any day. That said, I also agree that the lede can be made simpler and more concise without losing much. Renerpho (talk) 06:58, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Agreed. I'm still standing with ALT1 as I have mentioned earlier. And yes, the other language Wikipedia articles on J1407b are outdated and have not been edited and updated as thoroughly as what I have done to the English article. I personally don't think using these other language Wikipedia articles is really a clear-cut way of qualifying the article. Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 17:00, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @ජපස and Nrco0e: I've been reading our project pages on the same topic and they basically all share one thing in common that is different from this page. They generalize in the lead and present just the bare facts, and I think that's missing here. We have to assume that most of our readers are not astronomers and astrophysicists. For example, I still find this statement confusing based on the way it is written: "Mamajek's team initially hypothesized that J1407b is an exoplanet or brown dwarf orbiting the star, but that has since been disfavored by later studies". We don't even need to go into all of that. Just fix the lead so that first sentence states right away at the beginning that J1407b is either an an exoplanet or brown dwarf that is likely a free-floating object. Then, from there, once the reader understands what exactly it is they are reading, you can go into the nitty gritty. I have read this six times and I still think the lead is too detailed, particularly in the first paragraph. Give us a dumbed down first paragraph, and I think you should be fine slowly introducing the reader to more details. Viriditas (talk) 20:34, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How about this for the lede section? 

J1407b is a substellar object, possibly a free-floating planet, with a massive ring system or circumplanetary disk. It was first detected in 2007 when its rings eclipsed the star V1400 Centauri, causing a series of dimming events for 56 days. J1407b's rings span a radius of about 90 million kilometers (56 million miles) and may eventually form moons over time. Although initially thought to be orbiting V1400 Centauri, later studies suggest J1407b is likely an unbound object passing in front of the star.

This is stripped down to what I think is the bare minimum. Everything else can (and is) handled in the article body. The Spanish Wikipedia article adds a mass estimate, but I think that's not essential (not to mention that it's a bit tricky, and the Spanish version gets it wrong). Renerpho (talk) 07:19, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and replaced the lede. Renerpho (talk) 07:33, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Review
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Still need to choose a hook. What is the preference of the nom (and others), based on ALT1, ALT2, and ALT3? I would like to see the readable prose in the lead tightened up a bit, but this is not a requirement for DYK, but I do find the lead section less than ideal for general readers per my comments up above. Viriditas (talk) 21:00, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Renerpho: Lede's fine for DYK, you'll want to expand it for GA. (WP:LEADLENGTH is as useless as a chocolate teapot but my personal rule of thumb is about one sentence per paragraph.) Not sure I like any of the hooks (WP:DYKDEFINITE doesn't like 'current'/'either'/'might'); I propose ALT4: ... that J1407b caused a series of significant dimming events between 7 April and 4 June 2007?--Launchballer 09:29, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nrco0e: Thought Renerpho was the nominator.--Launchballer 09:31, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Tinzaouaten (2024)

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Created by Chomik1129 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Chomik! (talk?) 17:21, 29 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

If the toll is not confirmed best not to use it as a hook. Ukraine's involvement does sound more interesting.VR (Please ping on reply) 16:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Vice regent: added an alt hook about Ukraine. Chomik! (talk?) 17:02, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It looks good as it is. I would prefer "that Ukraine said it provided Tuareg rebels with assistance in their successful ambush of Wagner Group mercenaries in Mali?" As I said on talk this was more of an ambush. But I think your alt is fine too.VR (Please ping on reply) 22:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Will take, probably tomorrow. For now, striking ALT0.--Launchballer 14:32, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Chomik1129: Long enough, new enough. No copyright concerns, no maintenance templates deserved, no QPQ needed. The hook does not meet WP:DYKINT - please propose a hook that is unusual or intriguing to a broad audience.--Launchballer 07:43, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Chomik1129: Please address the above.--Launchballer 09:13, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: I created a hook that I think is easier to understand. What are your thoughts? Chomik! (talk?) 10:31, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comprehensibility isn't the problem, although that is a better hook in that respect. A country providing support during a battle is not unusual.--Launchballer 10:39, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: I see. I added another hook, do you think it's okay? Chomik! (talk?) 12:51, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Auckland Central in the 2020 New Zealand general election

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  • Source: "The Green MP was still pinching herself today after claiming her party's second-ever electorate seat and the first without a major party endorsement." link
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Created by TheLoyalOrder (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

TheLoyalOrder (talk) 10:38, 31 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Ornithoptera: This is the second oldest fully unreviewed nom and I unexpectedly need a second QPQ (ironically for Gigi Perez, who went viral for a song about her late sister!). Do you still plan on reviewing this or should I take over, probably tomorrow?--Launchballer 14:34, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Launchballer, it seems like you needed a second QPQ so you're more than welcome to take over, my apologies for the delay. The loss in the family has affected a lot of my concentration more than I would have expected as of late. Cheers Ornithoptera (talk) 21:35, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TheLoyalOrder: I've tried to review this a few times, but I can't get past the fact that the Background section goes into way too much detail for a daughter article (to give one example out of several, content about the electorate should be at Auckland Central). Please cut this right down. When you've done that, I'll try again.--Launchballer 10:04, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Codex Basiliensis A. N. IV. 1

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Improved to Good Article status by Stephen Walch (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Stephen Walch (talk) 20:00, 29 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

that a manuscript of the New Testament called Codex Basiliensis A. N. IV. 1, was used as a page-template for the first published printed edition of the New Testament by its editor, Desiderius Erasmus Roterodamus?
Or:
that Desiderius Erasmus Roterodamus used Codex Basiliensis A. N. IV. 1 as a page template for his first published printed edition of the New Testament, marking it with red chalk?
Want to try and get a mention of the red-chalk marks in if possible :D Stephen Walch (talk) 14:57, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I still think the hook is rather specialist or too reliant on being familiar with Biblical studies. I'm not sure who else to ask for help with, so I'll see if I can ask for help over at WT:DYK regarding a hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:46, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I cannot grasp the importance of the red chalk from either the hook or the article. From the article, red chalk was used to mark changes, by one or more people. What makes this so unusual that it is worth mentioning in the hook? Did texts not often get changes, or is there something unusual about the material? CMD (talk) 10:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@User:Chipmunkdavis - Ancient manuscripts aren't usually written on or marked up by anyone these days: the idea that someone would mark or deface an artefact fills most modern people with dread; that a written manuscript of the NT was, to quote Scrivener, "barbarously scored with red chalk" is quite telling of this even from the 19th century. The MS and how it was used is also very important in the history of printed books, as this was the manuscript used for the first ever published printed Greek NT. Evidently I need to think of a how to word the hook to get this across. :) Stephen Walch (talk) 14:20, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Stephen Walch: Heads up, "New Testament" is a WP:COMMONTERM, so you could probably get away with starting ALT0 at "a manuscript of the New Testament". I'd also lose everything after "template" for interest purposes and replace "it to be used as a page-" with "use as a" for concision. This should simplify the hook somewhat and give you some room to put a quote in there.--Launchballer 11:20, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer:: thanks very much for the suggested improvements. How about then:
Think that works as a decent hook? :) Stephen Walch (talk) 19:37, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's better, but I think it's recursive to include "New Testament" twice and that the hook would be more interesting if it left off what it was being used for.--Launchballer 20:48, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How about therefore:
Any better @Launchballer:? Stephen Walch (talk) 20:25, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kayangan Lake

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Created by DarkNight0917 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 12 past nominations.

🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 04:41, 5 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I will do a full review of this later, but for now my main concern is the hook. The claim of it being the cleanest lake in Asia is an exceptional claim, so per WP:DYKHOOK and WP:EXCEPTIONAL would require exceptional sourcing. Right now the article uses The Straits Times as the source for the fact: it is yellow on WP:RSP, which generally means it is to be used with caution on Wikipedia, and its suitability is a case-by-case thing. In this case, it may not be completely safe for it to be what supports the source. Either more independent or stronger sourcing should be found, or a different hook be proposed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:43, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, propose this one: ALT1:... that a tribe performed rituals in a lake to let outsiders use it? Source:TST this hook uses the Straits times, let me know if it's okay or not. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 12:36, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT1 should be okay as the article isn't about the Singaporean government and there's no reason to doubt that the ST is unreliable in this case. The main issue right now is that part of the article appears to be a close paraphrase of the Straits Times article, so that needs urgent attention. The sourcing in the article isn't the best since it seems to rely on tourist guide websites, but for the purpose of the article it probably isn't disqualifying since they aren't used to support contentious information. As for the rest of the DYK checks, the article is new enough and long enough and a QPQ has been provided. In addition for the need to resolve the close paraphrasing, the article could also use a copyedit. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:05, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One final suggestion: as the claim of it being the cleanest lake in Asia is an exceptional claim, and I do not believe that the sources provided are exceptional sources, my suggestion would be to make the statement in the article less definitive. Something like "The Straits Times stated that the lake is reputed..." or wording to that effect. Maybe Launchballer can help out here with the wording and copyediting? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:58, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A possible alternate wording of ALT1, if for whatever reason it does not pass scrutiny, could be something like:
ALT3 ... that prior to allowing outsiders to visit Kayangan Lake, the Tagbanwa tribe performed a ritual to seek permission from nature spirits?
It's much longer than ALT2 and I think ALT2 is still suitable, this is just a backup option. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:01, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will take a look at this when I'm done with Talk:Megan Barton-Hanson/GA1, and I'll get to that when I'm feeling a little more clear-headed. (There's clearly something big there I'm not seeing.)--Launchballer 13:48, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am really not liking some of the sources used in this article - Journey Era, Philippinetravels.ph, and Richandsunnytravels.ph are all WP:SPS blogs and Guidetothephilippines.ph is a travel agency. What makes them reliable?--Launchballer 14:45, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They're travel websites that give information about the subject. They aren't ideal, but it's often the case that coverage about less well-known Philippine destinations are lacking. As long as they aren't being used to support contentious information, as in what they're saying is uncontroversial and unlikely to be made up, I don't necessarily see them as a problem for DYK purposes. This isn't aiming for FA or even GA. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:08, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Having said that, the claim of it being the cleanest lake in Asia is an exceptional claim, and I'm not comfortable with how it is currently presented as a fact in the article. As stated above, my suggestion would be for it to be attributed to the Straits Times, while also making the presentation less definite. If this isn't addressed, I can't see this article running on DYK since that statement will likely be challenged at WT:DYK and/or WP:ERRORS. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:57, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TheNuggeteer: Please address the concerns raised above; the nomination may be marked for closure if they are not resolved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:09, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Done, added note. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 13:55, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, but the attribution to The Straits Times has to be in-text and not a footnote. So the article should say something like "A The Straits Times article called the lake the cleanest in Asia." or something like that, and even, I'm not even sure if the claim would meet scrutiny to other editors. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:01, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TheNuggeteer and Narutolovehinata5: "Asia's cleanest lake" is a scientific claim, and not one The Straits Times is qualified to make. What even defines "cleanest"? "widely regarded" by scientists, or average people, or who? Hook currently fails verification. Also, are the travel blogs reliable sources? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:39, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I see this came up earlier. Launchballer seems to be right under WP:DYKG, which says that all sources cited need to meet a minimum standard of reliability (i.e. can't be self-published). theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:40, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oxford zero emission zone

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  • Comment: Should be good as this article is just above 1500 characters. My third article.
Moved to mainspace by JuniperChill (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

JuniperChill (talk) 08:57, 2 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

You might want to do something about the unsourced content in this. (I don't plan on reviewing this any time soon as I review oldest first, but I might pop in and expand it once I've finished the stuff on my to-do list.)--Launchballer 12:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JuniperChill: Not a full review, but I have tagged the article with two "citation needed" tags. These need to be resolved before this nomination can be approved. Z1720 (talk) 03:54, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Z1720: I added two references to replace the {{cn}}. Should be good JuniperChill (talk) 09:38, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This needs a reviewer to look at all the criteria. Z1720 (talk) 11:56, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@JuniperChill: Was about to review, however I see that the phrase "nine streets in Oxford" is in the lead but not in the body and sourced nowhere. This should be rectified.--Launchballer 18:13, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: Done with the citations. However, the "nine streets" already appeared on both the lead and the body. diff JuniperChill (talk) 22:31, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, my mistake. (You can actually remove the ref from the lead if you like, since it isn't actually necessary.) I will review this in the morning.--Launchballer 22:37, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Long enough, new enough, QPQ unnecessary. Earwig's down, so will assess that when it's up, though I'm not seeing a need for any other dispute tags. The article's hook isn't directly relevant to the zero-emission zone and I think a new hook should be proposed.--Launchballer 10:17, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How about Alt1: "that Oxford's zero emission zone has faced a hypocrisy claim and been known to some as the congestion charge as non-electric vehicles can enter on payment?" JuniperChill (talk) 11:53, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Asik-Asik Falls

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Asik-Asik Falls
Asik-Asik Falls
Created by DarkNight0917 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 11 past nominations.

🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 09:05, 6 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

These are kind of what the falls are really known for, so I think that these would be more interesting. - DarkNight0917 (talk / contr) 23:57, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

new enough, long enough, image is fine, qpq done. some concerns:

  • on the verge of rejecting alt0; to discover something, by definition, has to be an accident.
  • rejecting alt1; not mentioned in article. also, readers won't know what it means for a waterfall to go viral. it was an image of the falls that went viral, and that's uninteresting, a lot of things go viral.
  • rejecting alt2; uninteresting (and probably undue to mention in the article).
  • alt3/4's source says that Where the water comes from is still a mystery. it's not visible, yes, but it's also not known, unless there's something i'm missing.
  • refs 2, 3, and 7 are travel guides/blogs; are these reliable?
  • It receives over 500 tourists on weekdays and 1,000 on weekends is cited to a 2014 source and probably outdated

ltbdl☃ (talk) 07:30, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Don't know what's wrong with alt3 and 4, the blogs are reliable since these are usually for expansion and regularly do no harm in DYK. Fixed the outdated thing by adding a note. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 13:57, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TheNuggeteer: regularly do no harm? do you have examples? ltbdl☃ (talk) 17:42, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TheNuggeteer: If the article cites blogs with no kind of peer review or editorial process, ltbdl is right that those should be removed before appearing at DYK. Could that be addressed? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:07, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Liberalism in the Philippines

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Converted from a redirect by TheNuggeteer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 11 past nominations.

🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 04:36, 7 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Long enough, new enough. QPQ done. Earwig highlights a couple of phrases, but I can't think of another way of wording them so calling WP:LIMITED. I think the {{improve categories}} template should be resolved. Could you talk me through the sourcing for the hook?--Launchballer 23:14, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed the improve categories tag, what do you need? 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 03:50, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not seeing where in the article the hook is spelt out, unless I'm going blind.--Launchballer 09:45, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Philippine revolution and martial law, which both signify the ideology was used in revolutions. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 04:07, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
that's not "mostly". ltbdl☃ (talk) 05:01, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean by that? 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 08:04, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The hook reads as quite unspecific and vague, the meaning is not clear to a reader with no background. It would be better to have a more specific and concrete fact. CMD (talk) 08:12, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Another hook: ALT1: ...that the first liberalist party in the Philippines ended from government suppression? SRC 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 08:25, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sienna Green

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  • ... that at 193 centimetres (6 ft 4 in) tall, Australian Olympic water polo player Sienna Green is the tallest person in her family?
5x expanded by Schwede66 (talk) and 2603:7000:2101:AA00:5DFC:4931:AA8F:8FB5 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 155 past nominations.

Schwede66 11:06, 6 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Any better hook than this? Being that tall isn't always uncommon depending on where you're from. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:58, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Schwede66: Pinging for possible additional hooks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:25, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I can't see a better hook than that. If we don't hear from 2603:7000:2101:AA00:5DFC:4931:AA8F:8FB5 within a few days, I suggest you close that. Schwede66 00:52, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
With no response from the IP and Schwede66 being open to a closure, it unfortunately seems that the article is not a good fit for DYK at this time given the lack of hooky material. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:33, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I'll give it some thought. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:D919:443A:176C:AE5B (talk) 07:06, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've been musing about the concern that "Being that tall isn't always uncommon depending on where you're from." So I thought I would check.

While I'm not sure what "uncommon" is meant to be in that comment, this site indicates that a 6' 4" woman in Australia would be in the "Extremely Tall 99.999 Percentile". (By way of comparison, our article (for what it is worth) suggests that the average Australian woman 18+ a dozen years ago was a foot or so shorter[10] (N.B. - it also indicates that Australian women are among the tallest 20% in the world).)

She's also 19. Of US women at that age (wrong country, but according to our article, US women are a bit taller than Australian women), that would put her in the 99.9% percentile.

Not that we need more. But the hook does not simply reflect her height - which does given the above appear to be very much uncommon. But points to the fact that she is the tallest in her family. Lmk if you want me to look for evidence that it is, in addition, not common for a 19 year old girl to be the tallest in her family. There are studies that touch on the issue of a child's height relating to the parents' height, as well as there being a marked sex difference in height with women tending to be shorter than men,[11] but I haven't taken the time to find the best one, as I suspect what I've detailed may perhaps suffice.

All-in-all, I think that the assumption that led to the hook being rejected isn't in line with the evidence. Many thanks. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:F804:C954:1D4C:5D11 (talk) 03:33, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The issue is that simply being the tallest in one's family is not by itself a hooky fact. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:03, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Of course it is not. But that ignores your original complaint above - which is what I've addressed directly above. You wrote: "Being that tall isn't always uncommon". I tend to think that being in the 99.999 percentile might, just perhaps, qualify as uncommon.

And, of course, the hook speaks to that fact, as well as the fact that she is the tallest in her family... it's clearly not, as you now suggest, only about her being the tallest in her family. I'm a but confused by your most recent comment. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:A13D:8F1E:26A2:8F66 (talk) 05:49, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging User:Narutolovehinata5.2603:7000:2101:AA00:571:B2E5:C31C:BA89 (talk) 21:43, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I really don't think a "tallest person in her family" angle regardless of context is the best option here unfortunately. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:49, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks. Up above, you gave as your rationale: "Being that tall isn't always uncommon ..." I've shown that to be untrue. As being in the in the 99.999 percentile is in fact uncommon. And on top of that - making the uncommonness even greater -- it is a girl who is the tallest in her family. Your response now - which remains the same even though your rationale was shown to not reflect reality - strikes me as perhaps a bit of IDONTLIKEIT. I wonder if perhaps we could call in another editor for their view? 2603:7000:2101:AA00:571:B2E5:C31C:BA89 (talk) 02:47, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is not based on IDONTLIKE it; rather, it is based on WP:DYKINT. Being the tallest in one's family may be a conversation starter, but it's not really hooky in the grand scheme of things, at least for Wikipedia purposes. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:53, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Thanks for pointing to DYKINT. Because as DYKINT clearly states: "The hook should be likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest." This fits. It's so unusual in fact - contrary to your initial incorrect assertion, which was the basis for your denial at the top of the page -- that fewer than 99.999% do not fit into her category. That's extraordinarily unusual, by any measure. Both because your reason for rejection at the top of the page is without basis, and because DYKINT calls for a hook that is likelyt to be perceived as unusual which this woman clearly is, can you please invite another editor to review this? Thanks. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:571:B2E5:C31C:BA89 (talk) 03:35, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested althooks:
ALT1: ...that Sienna Green, her brother, mother, and father have all competitively played water polo?
ALT2: ...that Sienna Green began playing water polo because she saw it as a combination of basketball and swimming, her favourite sports?
Sienna Green might be a very leggy woman but I think it's best to focus on the sport she plays. Bremps... 06:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 would actually be a better option than the height angle. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:35, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

CyberJoly Drim

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Created by Piotrus (talk) and Asilvering (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 516 past nominations.

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • @Piotrus: You probably noticed by now I've rearranged the article so it's a bit more chronological. I've moved the publication dates out of the lead and into the body; these could probably cite the work itself but given what happened recently at Ácido Argentino I think it would be better if they were sourced. When this is done, I will review this.--Launchballer 11:56, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 6

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Midland Main Line upgrade

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Improved to Good Article status by JuniperChill (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

JuniperChill (talk) 20:52, 6 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • What's surprising or interesting about this hook? "Infrastructure project delayed" is not surprising anywhere in the world, especially an Anglophone country. (t · c) buidhe 04:55, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hopefully this is more interesting, but idk if the wording is the best.

 Reviewing... Starting a review. Flibirigit (talk) 01:10, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: No - Not done
Overall: The article passed GA status on August 5, and nominated the next day for DYK. Length is adequate. Sourcing needs improvement. I have added multiple citation needed tags where the source is unclear. There are WP:CLOP issues with here because the Wikipedia does not attribute the direct quote as per the original source. Both images used in the article are freely licensed on the Commons. A complete QPQ has not been done. The reviewer only commented on dates and hooks, and did not appear to check any of the other DYK policies. Please see WP:QPQ for details. I am still analyzing the article for neutrality and the hooks. Flibirigit (talk) 01:32, 13 September 2024 (UTC) Flibirigit (talk) 01:32, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I question the neutrality of this article due to extensive use of quotes in the "21st century proposals" section. Why are the comments by "Ryan Scott" importaant, and is he even notable? If not, please paraphrase. The quotes by Patrick McLoughlin are not properly attributed, and I queestion whether they can be paraphrased instead. This also would also benefit from the use of the {{convert}} template for measurements. Articles should be readable by persons not familiar with British units. I'm still contemplating the hooks. Flibirigit (talk) 01:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have struck ALT0 for being boring and mundane. As noted by User:buidhe, it is not uncommon for large infastructure projects to be delayed. I have struck ALT1 for presenting a quote by a "council leader" as a fact. Any such quirkly quotes must be clearly identified as a quote, never as a fact, and be properly attributed and cited in the nominated article. I'm still pondering the other two ALTs. Will comment further tomorrow. Flibirigit (talk) 01:58, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clay Webb

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  • ... that Clay Webb was named in a lawsuit concerning bullying that occurred when he was in high school?
  • ALT1: ... that Clay Webb once allegedly encouraged a minor to drink a bottle filled with Webb's semen? Source: [2]
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: I think the secondary hook grabs your attention more, but I can understand if it is denied because of the vulgar nature concerning it.
Created by TarheelBornBred (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

TarheelBornBred (talk) 13:10, 6 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@TarheelBornBred: This needs a new hook.--Launchballer 22:01, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Maybe ALT2: ... that Clay Webb, a five-star recruit from the class of 2019, was named a preseason All-American in 2024? [3] The interesting nature being that it took him from 2019 to 2024 which is an abnormally long stretch of time in college football already. Truthfully, I had the original hook in mind as the main selling point, but I can understand why it won't work. TarheelBornBred (talk) 16:35, 19 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]
Full review needed.--Launchballer 19:39, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TarheelBornBred: More of a comment for now rather than a review, but the issue with ALT2 is that it might not meet WP:DYKINT. A reader unfamiliar with college football and its intricacies may not get what "five-star recruit" and "All-American" are, especially if they are outside of America like the majority of readers. Ideally, a hook should be as understandable to as many people as possible without requiring too much context, and I don't think the hook meets that. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:44, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note that I have struck the original hook as the parts about the bullying are no longer in the article. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:13, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TarheelBornBred: Please address the above.--Launchballer 20:44, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, this totally slipped my mind. Maybe to make it more understandable to readers unfamiliar with college football, the hook could be ALT 3: ...that Clay Webb, a top recruit for the college football class of 2019, was named a preseason candidate for a team of the best college football players in 2024? In my opinion this hook sounds a little more clear to those who might not understand college football. TarheelBornBred (talk) 23:38, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]
It's more understandable, but probably still too technical for general readers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:16, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Jackson, Lily (January 3, 2020). "Alleged high school prank, bullying leads to federal suit against former Oxford 5-star recruit". AL.com. Retrieved August 5, 2024.
  2. ^ Jackson, Lily (January 3, 2020). "Alleged high school prank, bullying leads to federal suit against former Oxford 5-star recruit". AL.com. Retrieved August 5, 2024.
  3. ^ Londergan, Joe (July 3, 2024). "Jacksonville State Gamecocks' Lineman Named Preseason All-American". Sports Illustrated. Retrieved August 5, 2024.


Articles created/expanded on August 8

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Punam Krishan

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Krishan in 2021
Krishan in 2021
Created by Launchballer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 243 past nominations.

Launchballer 11:22, 8 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I didn't know what a "locum GP" is. Maybe that's a good thing, as it makes the first hook more "hooky". But can you clarify that in the lead of the article? Eg you can write "is a Scottish locum general practitioner (GP) from Glasgow." Also, in "Early life and medical career" please also clarify what's a "locum"? Might be helpful to link to Locum#United Kingdom healthcare.VR (Please ping on reply) 13:15, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • We have a (somewhat execrable) article about what locum GPs are at sessional GP, a term I've never heard of. I've made some edits to the article.--Launchballer 19:11, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • The original hook is problematic: there's an implied cause and effect—because of the scandals, they've brought in a locum GP—that is nothing of the sort. So I think the special occasion request will need to drop as well. You'll need to fix the single quote marks in ALT1; curly punctuation is against the MOS on Wikipedia. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:59, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Proposed ALT1a above. I'm guessing that "the Strictly Come Dancing contestant" would qualify for WP:DYKTRIM, right?--Launchballer 00:04, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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Ajah Pritchard-Lolo

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  • Source: Vanuatu Daily Post says she's the first female weightlifter; however, as per Olympedia, the nation has never had a male weightlifter, thus she is the first regardless of gender
Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 236 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:49, 16 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Full review needed now that QPQ has been provided.--Launchballer 20:19, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@BeanieFan11: Long enough, new enough, QPQ done. Hook's short enough, cited, and interesting (though if I had my druthers we'd be calling the Vanuatu Daily Post out on its blatant sexism!). Forgive my ignorance, but both the article and source claim Ajay won three silver and a bronze and both say "Snatch, Clean & Jerk and total", even though these are three events. Do you mean "snatch, clean, jerk, and total" or something else? I see no further reason why this might deserve a maintenance template.--Launchballer 18:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On a further look, I'm confused by this as well. There are three different events in weightlifting, the 'snatch', total, and the 'clean and jerk'; clean and jerk are not separate as far as I'm aware. We have an article on Weightlifting at the 2023 Pacific Games: it lists Pritchard-Lolo as having won medals in the three events – two silver (snatch, total) and a bronze (clean & jerk). Leaning towards changing it to that per this source from the competition. Thoughts? BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:22, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on August 10

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Mokulubete Makatisi

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  • Source: Public Eye News ("Makatisi, 26, finished the race on position eight in the women’s commonwealth marathon last Saturday ... Makatisi’s mentor ... says his athlete has tried very hard despite the setback of having to run in new shoes which she began to use for the first time on the day of the race.")
Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 237 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:27, 17 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: No - Should clarify something like how late these shoes were and/or how much they're needed for running, but no other issues.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Nom one week after creation and size 2330 B. Ref 4 ad 6 is broken, so I used [12] and [13]. @BeanieFan11: fix these issues and I'll approve. You may wanna update the article, but consider this optional. ミラP@Miraclepine 16:23, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Abortion in Africa, Abortion in Senegal, Abortion in Madagascar

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  • ... that in Africa, the only countries that have passed reproductive health laws without grounds for legal abortion are Senegal and Madagascar?
  • Source: [14] Eleven Sub-Saharan countries have passed reproductive health laws, and nine of them specify grounds for legal abortion (the exceptions are Senegal and Madagascar).
Moved to mainspace by Vigilantcosmicpenguin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 17:12, 11 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Vigilantcosmicpenguin: I'm planning on reviewing this when I'm not falling asleep, however I suspect that any hook saying that they haven't passed a reproductive health law yet could fall foul of WP:DYKDEFINITE as they could theoretically pass one at any minute. I think this should be futureproofed. Also, I'll be looking to run all three in one hook, so I have closed the individual nom.--Launchballer 23:57, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Human history

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    • Christian 2015, pp. 316, 400, "Dispersal over an unprecedented swath of the globe...coincided with an Ice Age...by the end of the era of climatic fluctuation, humans occupied almost all the habitats their descendants occupy today"
    • Pollack 2010, p. 93
  3. ^ Scott & Vare 2020, pp. 54–56
Sources
Improved to Good Article status by Phlsph7 (talk) and Cerebellum (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 22 past nominations.

Phlsph7 (talk) 11:52, 11 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Not a review, but two friendly comments. First, Agricultural revolution in ALT0 is a disambiguation page (I'm guessing it refers to the First agricultural revolution, which redirects to Neolithic Revolution). Second, if it's possible to make a hook about life expectancy and/or child mortality, that could be a very interesting hook indeed—I know I found John Green's video "Most People Have Never Been 20" interesting. TompaDompa (talk) 12:26, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for pointing this out, I fixed the link. A hook on changes to life expectancy could be interesting. I think the article only covers this in the sentence Advances in medical science led to a sharp increase in global life expectancy from about 31 years in 1900 to over 66 years in 2000.[552], which does not give us much to work with. Maybe:
    ALT3: ... that in modern human history, advances in medical science helped raise global life expectancy from about 31 years in 1900 to over 66 years in 2000.
    Phlsph7 (talk) 12:53, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not a big fan of ALT2, which is rather anachronistic: for most of human history, children did not live in societies in which "public education" was a meaningful concept. Given the wide scope of this article, I think a hook that encompasses a broad timescale would make the most sense. – Joe (talk) 11:24, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Many societies didn't really have public education so children didn't have access to it. Maybe you are concerned about something like the following: some readers may misconstrue the statement as implying that these societies did have public education but just not for most children. This is not what the hook says but it could happen. This problem could be solved by talking about formal education instead of public education but the claim in our article is about public education so this may not be acceptable according to the DYK rules. Phlsph7 (talk) 12:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    What I mean is that 'public education' to be a meaningful concept there first needs to exist the idea of a formal education and a state that provides public services, neither of which existed for "most of human history". In other words I think the hook anachronistically implies that children were missing out on something that was not even conceptualisable until recently. Kind of like saying "for most of human history, satellites did not use reusable launch vehicles". Technically true, but not very meaningful. – Joe (talk) 09:36, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Can people miss out on something for which they lack the relevant concepts? For example, the ancient Egyptians didn't have the concept of antibiotics. Can we say that "the ancient Egyptians didn't have access to antibiotics"? To my ears, this sounds acceptable. But I'm also open to different ways of expressing the idea. Phlsph7 (talk) 10:56, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT3 is not very well sourced. It cites page 1 of The Twentieth Century: A World History, which doesn't cite any sources for these figures, and a textbook on marketing for the "due to advances in medical science" part, which also doesn't cite a source for this claim. Neither source make it clear what specific measure of life expectancy they're using, but it's probably life expectancy at birth, which was largely a function of infant mortality in premodern societies and therefore the change involved more factors than just medical science (also improvements in public health, contraception, reduction of child poverty and malnourishment, etc). – Joe (talk) 11:24, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT3 is not my favorite either but I think the sources fulfill our requirements even though they themselves do not cite other sources for these claims. The hook says "helped raise" to not imply that there were no other factors. Phlsph7 (talk) 12:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I wouldn't say they fulfil the basic requirement of being reliable sources, in this context, per WP:EXCEPTIONAL. But this is probably best continued on the article talk page. – Joe (talk) 09:36, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    adjusted hook per talk page discussion at Talk:Human_history#Increase_in_life_expectancy:
    Phlsph7 (talk) 07:44, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:01, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jacques Lewis

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  • Source: "Believed to be the last surviving Frenchman to wade ashore with Americans, he was attached to an Army unit that stormed Utah Beach and helped drive Germans out of France."
NY Times
Created by Thriley (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 139 past nominations.

Thriley (talk) 16:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC). Review[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - The NYT source does not support the hook as written because it only covers the US landings but there were British and Canadian beaches on D-Day too. A claim of first/last is a flag Redflag and so needs excellent verification.
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - "Believed" is a weasel word and/or expression of doubt. If this is a definite fact, as it should be, then we should state it as such without such tentative language.

QPQ: No - Not provided yet. Note current discussions about limiting nominations on credit like this.
Overall: I'm not sure of the formal status of translations but this review template asks Is the article free of material copied from other sources? and it isn't. The article seemed to need some copy-editing and so further work of that kind may soften the issue. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:04, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your review. Will fix up shortly. Thriley (talk) 21:47, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1... that Jacques Lewis, a 105 year old French veteran of D-Day, insisted that he participate in a ceremony commemorating the invasion's 80th anniversary? Thriley (talk) 20:55, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A House in Jerusalem

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Created by Makeandtoss (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 43 past nominations.

Makeandtoss (talk) 11:35, 11 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for pointing out this guideline.
ALT1 ... that the director of the Netflix-released film A House in Jerusalem, Muayad Alayan, is a Palestinian whose family was expelled from what had become Israel during the Nakba in 1948? Makeandtoss (talk) 09:06, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not too fond of the hook as it seems to be more about the director than the movie itself, but will let a different editor decide. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:59, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Council Working Party

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Created by WatkynBassett (talk) on 5 August 2024. Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 25 past nominations.

WatkynBassett (talk) 07:47, 11 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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Madhavi (princess)

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  • ... that in Hindu mythology, Madhavi, who was blessed with the miraculous ability to regain her virginity after each childbirth, was married to three kings, each in exchange for 200 rare horses?
Created by Seyamar (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 10:18, 21 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Hammond's Hard Lines

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  • ... that depending on the edition, a fairy or a gremlin grants wishes to the titular character of Hammond's Hard Lines?
Created by Slgrandson (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 20:21, 20 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

ALT1 as currently written is inaccurate: there are countless examples from anime and manga alone, let alone other genres of literature. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:55, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1b: ... that Hammond's Hard Lines was one of the few school stories by a British author to feature fantasy in its plot? Source: Wotton, Joy; Auchmuty, Rosemary, eds. (2000). "Skelton Kuppord (Pseudonym for Sir John Adams)". The Encyclopaedia of School Stories. Ashgate. p. 211. ISBN 0-7546-0083-1. Retrieved 2024-09-08 – via Google Books Snippets. (Emphasis on the nationality this time; apologies if I didn't sign last time.) --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 03:04, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

William, Prince of Wales, in film and television

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William, Prince of Wales, wearing medals and a remembrance poppy
William, Prince of Wales
Elevator pitch to increase appeal of subject matter

Many years ago, European royal families were the most powerful politicians of their countries. Compare that to today, where (aside from Pope Francis) royalty serve as figureheads in kingdoms such as Belgium and Sweden. Or, in the case of the United Kingdom, you have a family of princes as the ultimate form of soft power, appealing to the masses worldwide through their charity work and family milestones.

Arguably, nowhere is this soft power more popular (at least for now) than in the form of Prince William, on deck to be king of the birthplace of the English language, the Great White North, Down Under, and 12 other countries. By presenting this article on Did you know, readers will learn much more about the public's fascination with this prince on the big screen and small screen alike. From two films on his wedding to a documentary on his advocacy for climate change, there will be plenty of intrigue and critique that will not disappoint!

Finally, as a more serious comment, I would like to note that this page's parent article appeared on Did you know less than a year ago as of this post. If this affects eligibility, please let me know.

Created by AndrewPeterT (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

AndrewPeterT (talk) (contribs) 04:17, 19 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

References

  1. ^ Reynolds, Simon (20 April 2011). "Vanessa Redgrave to voice the Queen in 'Cars 2'". Digital Spy. Sky Digital. Retrieved 18 August 2024.
  2. ^ Hill, Erin (16 January 2024). "Kate Middleton and Prince William's True Feelings About The Crown Revealed". People. Dotdash Meredith. Archived from the original on 28 February 2024. Retrieved 18 August 2024.
  3. ^ Robinson, Abby; Knight, Lewis (19 December 2023). "The Crown season 6 cast: Full list of actors and characters". RadioTimes.com. Immediate Media Company Ltd. Retrieved 18 August 2024.
  4. ^ Ward, Kate (11 May 2011). "'South Park' spoofing Royal Wedding tonight. What other current events should it parody?". Entertainment Weekly. Dotdash Meredith. Archived from the original on 27 July 2024. Retrieved 18 August 2024.
  5. ^ Scheck, Frank (22 July 2017). "'Diana: Our Mother: Her Life and Legacy': TV Review". The Hollywood Reporter. Eldridge Industries. Archived from the original on 26 February 2024. Retrieved 18 August 2024.
  6. ^ Mackelden, Amy (1 September 2017). "10 Things We Learned About Princess Diana and Her Death from Diana, 7 Days". Harper's Bazaar. Hearst Magazine Media, Inc. Archived from the original on 28 July 2024. Retrieved 18 August 2024.

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Benoit Blin

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  • ... that during his service with the French Navy pastry chef and television judge Benoit Blin cut off the tips of his fingers in a kitchen accident?
  • Source: " For me, when I was a young lad I made a silly mistake during my military service. I used a butcher knife to slice a tomato when I was doing staff food. It was extremely sharp and chopped the end of my fingers off with the tomato." from "The man behind the chef: Benoit Blin - The Staff Canteen Live". www.thestaffcanteen.com. Retrieved 14 August 2024.
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 870 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 14:32, 15 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Thanks for the heads-up Launchballer, luckily everything was covered by the BBC source so I've switched it over to that - Dumelow (talk) 21:18, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You should consider installing WP:UPSD. Full review needed.--Launchballer 21:44, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, that is a very handy gadget that should be more widely known, thanks - Dumelow (talk) 07:47, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Joe Wirkkunen

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  • Reviewed: Grace Panvini and Robert Aiello
  • Comment: I volunteer two QPQ credits for one nomination, to help reduce the backlog of nominations without reviews.
Created by Flibirigit (talk) and WheatenOdin51 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 155 past nominations.

Flibirigit (talk) 17:26, 23 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: I have some concern about the roundabout way the citation verifies the hook. Presently, I think there are two logical leaps being made from "sought suggestions from the local hockey community, and Joe's name was recommended" → "receiving a recommendation from Canada?" and then "Finland was searching for a Finnish speaking instructor with knowledge of the Canadian ice hockey system." → "coached the Finland men's national ice hockey team" connected by the "after receiving" makes it sound like the coaching position was directly a result from the recommendation from Canada. Bobby Cohn (talk) 17:25, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm okay with Canada being a stand-in for "local community" (we're small, I get it; and it is limited at DYK) but the implied timeline seems like a bit of a stretch, but could be easily remedied. Suggested alternative: ALT1: "... that Joe Wirkkunen, after receiving a recommendation from Canada, would go on to coach the Finland men's national ice hockey team?" just to clarify. Bobby Cohn (talk) 17:26, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Another opinion is needed for ALT1 since neither I nor the original reviewer are eligible to approve it. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 00:56, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vollpension

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Vollpension staff
Vollpension staff
  • ... that Vollpension employs grandpas and grandmas (pictured) to bake cakes according to their own recipes, and during the COVID-19 pandemic offered live baking-courses from elders across the world?
  • Source: "In 2020, at the height of coronavirus pandemic, the Vollpension launched the 'world’s first Grandma Baking School'. BakAdemy is an online platform that offers on-demand, live baking courses taught by the cafe’s elderly staff, helping to spreading their knowledge and recipes worldwide.." [15]
  • ALT1: ... that Vollpension provides additional income and generation-bridging interaction to Viennese grandpas and grandmas (pictured) by employing them to bake and serve their own cakes?
  • Source: "But it is also a highly successful experiment in 'social good' or 'social entrepreneurship,' a commercially sustainable way to provide much-needed extra income. Equally important, it provides friendly generation-bridging interaction for older people who may otherwise feel lonely or isolated." [16]
  • ALT2: ... that the Viennese café Vollpension (employees pictured) addresses poverty and loneliness in elders by employing them to bake and serve their own cakes?
  • Source: "Beyond being a cafe, however, the Vollpension is seen as a statement against social issues such old-age poverty and loneliness.." [17]
  • Reviewed: Agnes Crane
  • Comment: QPQ is coming. Alternative hooks suggestions are welcome!
Created by Surtsicna (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 181 past nominations.

Surtsicna (talk) 22:58, 22 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • @Surtsicna: Per a recent WT:DYK discussion, there has been loose consensus to change the rules so that a QPQ now needs to be provided at the time of the nomination, instead of up to a week after. Please provide a QPQ at the earliest opportunity, otherwise the nomination is liable to be closed as incomplete without warning. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:36, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Narutolovehinata5. I'm on it! Surtsicna (talk) 20:07, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done. I was not aware of the rule change. It seems perfectly reasonable. Surtsicna (talk) 20:49, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Italian Campaign of 1796-1797

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Created by Sir MemeGod (talk) (translator) and 151.82.192.215 (talk) (who made the Italian page). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 16:27, 19 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]


  • @Sir MemeGod: a few things need straightening out here:
  • There are a lot of Harvard errors in the citations and referencing. If you haven't already, I suggest installing this script to catch and fix them.
  • The two sources cited here are not really up to the bar of WP:RS. We need published works, ideally in print, by people acknowledged as experts in their field. Fortunately, Napoleon is not short of people who have written good academic work about him.
  • The hooks need to be explicitly stated within the article itself: neither of these two seem to be.

I would suggest giving the article a fix for the citations, and then looking for two or three good facts from within it for which you have good sources already cited. I notice you've written that it's a translation, so make sure that these are from works that you can access to verify the citation. UndercoverClassicist T·C 13:21, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]


1. "...that the Italian Campaign of 1796–1797 ended with the Treaty of Campo Formio?"
1b. Source: https://www.britannica.com/event/Treaty-of-Campo-Formio#:~:text=Treaty%20of%20Campo%20Formio%2C%20(October,Napoleon%20Bonaparte's%20first%20Italian%20campaign.
2. "...that the Italian Campaign of 1796–1797 was led by Napoleon?" (Kind of generic, I know)
2b. Source: https://www.worldhistory.org/Napoleon's_Italian_Campaign/
2c. Source:https://www.pbs.org/empires/napoleon/n_war/campaign/page_1.html#:~:text=First%20Italian%20Campaign%2C%201796%2D97,Piedmontese%2C%20then%20conquer%20each%20separately. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 15:19, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]



Sources (which I've checked WP:RS/PS for reliability):
1. https://www.pbs.org/empires/napoleon/n_war/campaign/page_1.html (passes WP:RS/PS)
2. https://www.britannica.com/event/French-revolutionary-wars/Campaign-in-Italy (there is no consensus, but the information is non-controversial, so it should be fine)
Also, printed books shouldn't be a requirement, if it's stated from a RS then it should be fine. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 16:47, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • They're not a requirement, but most of the websites you had been citing weren't good RSs for historical information -- I think Britannica is fine; PBS is acceptable but not great for history: we can trust their integrity, but they don't claim any real academic expertise or credibility. I think the most recent ALT (which I've labelled ALT0) is good; I've taken the liberty of making some minor edits for concision and markup. Hook is in the article, but the reference doesn't quite check: PBS give the two week figure as the combined total for Montenotte and Mondovi. UndercoverClassicist T·C 17:50, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lovely stuff. A few copyright issues:

Not strictly required, but as we're going to be directing many readers from the main page to this article, it would be good to have alt text on the images for the benefit of blind people using screen readers. UndercoverClassicist T·C 18:26, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request new reviewer, reviewer has not responded in 4 days. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 14:18, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to respect that request, though I note for the future reviewer that the source information on File:Bonaparte di Edouard Detaille.jpg is still insufficient. Good luck with the nomination. UndercoverClassicist T·C 15:53, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 17

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Liebigs Annalen

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Improved to Good Article status by Reconrabbit (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Reconrabbit 15:37, 20 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

1961 Pittsburg State Gorillas football team

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Head coach Carnie Smith with All-Americans Gary Snadon and Harlan Hess and the UPI national championship trophy
Head coach Carnie Smith with All-Americans Gary Snadon and Harlan Hess and the UPI national championship trophy
  • ... that the undefeated 1961 Pittsburg State Gorillas (pictured with UPI trophy) shut out seven opponents, featured four All-Americans and won three national championships?
  • Source: Seven shutouts: here

Four All-Amerians: Snadon here, Archer, Beal, Hess here

Three national championships: UPI national small college champion (here), NAIA national champion (here), and AP small college national champion (here).
5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 375 past nominations.

Cbl62 (talk) 11:30, 18 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Post-tuberculosis lung disease

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Fungus growing in a post-TB lung cavity
Healed tuberculous cavity
Healed tuberculous cavity
Created by Buidhe (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 249 past nominations.

(t · c) buidhe 06:26, 17 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Abortion in Guinea

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  • Source: [18] [my translation] For this legal journalist, the Guinean penal code cannot condemn a woman who has had an abortion.
Moved to mainspace by Vigilantcosmicpenguin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 04:59, 17 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 18

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Agnes Crane

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  • ... that Agnes Crane (1852–1932) was an English amateur paleontologist who nonetheless described a new species of brachiopod and presented her work at the 1893 World's Congress in Chicago?
World's congress - 'Read at Chicago, August 24, 1893, before the Women's Auxiliary Branch of the World's Congress', footnote to Geol Mag 2, p 64, 1893 - https://dx.doi.org/10.1017/S0016756800005811
Created by Chaiten1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

Chaiten1 (talk) 19:22, 20 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

There is probably nothing I like seeing more on DYK than women scientists. Thanks for this one, Chaiten1. The article is new and long enough. It covers the subject's life and career perfectly well. The sources are of very high quality and even quite accessible too. There are two issues, however. Firstly, "Crane lived in Brighton for the rest of her life" and "a role later taken on by Crane's father" require citations. Secondly, the wording of the hook can be improved. I would propose something like:
  • ALT1: that despite having no university training, Agnes Crane described a new species of brachiopod in 1886?
Let me know what you think. Surtsicna (talk) 20:47, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the encouragement! I have added citations to the statements in the page: one is Crane's births/marriages/death entry from FreeBMD, as other sources (like probate) are behind paywalls; the other is from Edward Crane's obituary. I do like your suggestion for rewording in ALT1 - I have just inserted 'of brachiopod' - thank you!Chaiten1 (talk) 09:06, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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Serekunda, Kanifing

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Downtown Serekunda
Downtown Serekunda
  • Source: [19] Banjul, Gambia's capital city, is positioned on St. Mary's Island at the mouth of the River Gambia and long ago reached its residential carrying capacity. Adjacent Serekunda has accommodated the overflow.
5x expanded by Vigilantcosmicpenguin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 15 past nominations.

— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 00:40, 21 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: I don't see the article as new, needs an explanation. The hook is a book source so AGF. I see multiple un-broad sentences, like about the dictator's rule, which isn't related to the city (only a tiny bit). 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 23:42, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good explanation, changing. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 00:46, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Source: Same as before

— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 22:48, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: reviewer needed to review second article, Kanifing, and the new ALT1 hook with both articles included. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:59, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Kanifing review
    Article was expanded from 1761 characters/288 words to 8988 characters/1422 words. This is on the border of x5 expansion, and some copyediting may bring this down. There are some paraphrasing concerns. The lead has "Kanifing is a municipality in the Gambia, to the west of Banjul...It includes Serrekunda, the largest urban area in the Gambia", which is very close to "Kanifing, a local government area, lies to the west of Banjul, the capital. It includes Serrekunda, the largest urban area in the country". "It has the largest population of any of the districts in the Gambia" in the lead is very similar to "Kanifing municipality has the largest population of any administrative district in the country" of the same source. "Kanifing is the most densely populated part of the Gambia" in the body is very similar to the same source's "making it the most densely populated area in The Gambia". "In 1991, it became the Kanifing Municipal Council" seems taken from "In 1991, KUDC was given the status of a municipal council, becoming Kanifing Municipal Council (KMC)", "Kanifing and Banjul comprise the Greater Banjul Area" is "Kanifing and the City of Banjul together form the Greater Banjul Area", both also from this source. There may be other areas, I have not checked every place this was cited. Some of these might be fine on their own as basic information, but seeing so many examples demonstrates the paraphrasing is too close. (While I cannot access many of the sources used here, I could access this waste management one, which does not seem closely paraphrased in the same way.) A related aside, the "Senegalese people comprise 92% of these" in the article is wrongly contextualised, the source notes 92% is for all of The Gambia, not just Kanifing. Talib Ahmed Bensouda's political party does not seem to be in the mentioned source.
    I have not re-checked the Serekunda article other than to check the hook. While I am not sure what "overtaking its status" in the body there means, the main point in the hook is supported. I find the hook interesting. A second QPQ was completed. CMD (talk) 10:58, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Chipmunkdavis: I've made tweaks to the prose to address the paraphrasing issues. I've kept the sentence "Kanifing and Banjul comprise the Greater Banjul Area" since I really don't think there's a more concise phrasing of that, and I don't know how to rephrase "the most densely populated part of the Gambia" while staying faithful to the source. I've checked for close paraphrasing from other sources and I believe I have addressed everything. Also removed the wrong statistic about refugees, thanks for pointing that out.
      As for article length, it has been expanded much more than fivefold since the expansion began. The prose size as of the revision before my edits was 561 B. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 16:00, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      You're right on the expansion, I was calculating one diff off, so my concern about length was mistaken. On the paraphrasing, there is still some rewriting needed. Shifting a few words doesn't remove the text echoing the source in style and structure. Shifting from saying the area has most of the country's coastal resorts and hotels to saying it has most of the country's hotels and coastal resorts does not read as a new piece of writing. "Youth unemployment (those aged 15–35 years) is 6.5%, lower than many districts in the country" should not be copied with a small change to "youth unemployment rate is 6.5%, lower than most of the country". The shifting of the "It includes Serrekunda" sentence did not affect its structure being lifted from the source. The salient information should be extracted from the source, not the sentences or structure. For example, the article currently has the text "...people who are 15 or older...and 254,337 who are unemployed". I've just realised that that figure doesn't match the preceding figures, so please check that, but whatever the figure is, that is a place that information about youth unemployment would naturally fit, say "Of workers between 15 and 35, just 6.5% are unemployed." CMD (talk) 17:43, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      More tweaks made, though it may be imperfect as I'm multitasking right now. Kept the phrasing "lower than most of the country" since it's more precise than just saying it's "low". I can't think of a better phrasing for the sentence about hotels. Thanks for putting in more effort than most DYK reviewers would. And thanks for pointing out the unemployment statistic; that's the kind of blunder that happens when I've stared at PDFs with tables for a bit too long. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 18:25, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Janet Panetta

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  • ... that Janet Panetta, who started dancing as physical therapy for childhood polio, would go on to teach dance all over Europe, becoming a "launchpad" for many dancers including Jérôme Bel?
  • Source: "Janet Panetta, who overcame childhood polio to become a dancer with American Ballet Theater, a performer in New York’s thriving downtown modern dance scene and a revered ballet teacher, died on Saturday in Brooklyn. She was 74."

"The French choreographer Jérôme Bel, also interviewed by The Times in 2010, said of Ms. Panetta, “If a dancer would be a rocket, she would be a launchpad.” He was her student at the National Center of Contemporary Dance in France, where she was the founding ballet teacher in the early 1980s. “Not telling you where to go, just giving you confidence in the universe,” he said."

NY Times
Created by Thriley (talk) and DaffodilOcean (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 140 past nominations.

Thriley (talk) 16:07, 27 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I'd actually focus on the childhood polio aspect rather than the launchpad aspect given that's a much more surprising fact and already works by itself. The current hook seems too complicated as is compared to the shorter option. Thus:
ALT1 ... that Janet Panetta started dancing as physical therapy for childhood polio?
@Thriley and DaffodilOcean: Thoughts on the simplified hook? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:24, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Reviewing... Flibirigit (talk) 20:55, 12 September 2024 (UTC) General eligibility:[reply]

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The article was moved to the mainspace on August 18, and nominated on August 27. Therefore it was 9 days old when nominated, which is outside of the required timeline of 7 days. Was there any previous discussion of allowing a longer timeline? Otherwise, length and sourcing are adequate. The article is neutral in tone. Plagiarism issues were cleaned up in the draft stage, but there still appears to be close paraphrasing here. ALT0 is a long and clunky hook that depends on the reader knowing Jérôme Bel. ALT1 is a better hook, shorter and interesting. It is cited and mentioned in the article, and verified by the source. There are no images used in the article, and the QPQ requirement is complete. Flibirigit (talk) 21:10, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Flibirigit: "The seven-day limit can be extended for a day or two upon request" per WP:DYKNEW.--Launchballer 01:59, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Daniela Larreal

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  • ... that although cyclist Daniela Larreal thought in 2004 that she would only have a few more years in her career, she was preparing for the 2016 Summer Olympics when forced into exile?
  • Source: Sources in article
5x expanded by Kingsif (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 131 past nominations.

Kingsif (talk) 20:44, 20 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Kingsif: Note that if a subject is featured on ITN under Recent deaths, it remains eligible for DYK. DYK ineligibility only applies to bolded links in blurbs (so for example, Paetongtarn Shinawatra is ineligible for DYK for one year after the blurb was posted), but not to Recent deaths entries. With that in mind, are you sure you want to withdraw the nomination instead of allowing it to proceed? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:19, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: If that's the case, happy to proceed with it, and I've struck my last comment. Kingsif (talk) 15:09, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Public image of JB Pritzker

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Created by Microplastic Consumer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Microplastic Consumer (talk) 22:17, 19 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Hooks about opinions usually require some kind of attribution. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:07, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are essentially hundreds of JB Pritzker fan accounts, some of whom who have received media coverage (See sources linked here and in the article). "Nomadic Warriors for Pritzker" is one of this accounts, and refers to Pritzker as the "Great Khan" Microplastic Consumer (talk) 12:12, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe something like ALT2 ... that JB Pritzker has been nicknamed the "Great Khan of the Midwest" by supporters? would work then? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:26, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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Jools Lebron

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Created by Willthacheerleader18 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 247 past nominations.

Launchballer 16:54, 25 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Arekia Bennett

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Created by CaptainAngus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

CaptainAngus (talk) 16:55, 24 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Two alternative hooks below:
ALT1: ...that despite intending to become a physics teacher, Arekia Bennett turned to civic activism due to her political concerns regarding reproductive rights and the electoral process?
Additional source for ALT1: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/25/us/freedom-summer-mississippi-votes.html “This is about creating a culture of civic engagement, not just during the election season. We want people to understand the political landscape and be involved on and off the clock,” said Ms. Bennett, a Jackson State University graduate who wanted to be a physics teacher before turning to civic activism.
ALT2: ...that voting-rights activist Arekia Bennett based a 2017 mass voter registration effort in Mississippi on Freedom Summer?
Source for ALT2: https://jacksonadvocateonline.com/ms-votes-the-next-generation-of-freedom-fighters-are-here/ “In 2017, [the organization] started to test this theory of what it means to do mass voter registration in the same ways that folks did during Freedom Summer,” says Bennett.
CaptainAngus (talk) 01:39, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not sure about these hooks either: #1 are very common reasons for political activism in the US and #2 is a commonly cited inspiration for voter registration. (t · c) buidhe 02:40, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Additional alternative hooks below:
ALT2a: ...that voting-rights activist Arekia Bennett aimed to recreate Freedom Summer, Mississippi's 1964 voter registration drive, in 2017?
Source for ALT2a: https://jacksonadvocateonline.com/ms-votes-the-next-generation-of-freedom-fighters-are-here/ “In 2017, [the organization] started to test this theory of what it means to do mass voter registration in the same ways that folks did during Freedom Summer,” says Bennett.
ALT3: ...that Arekia Bennett is focused on voting rights for Mississippi citizens including young queer people and children who have gone through the juvenile justice system?
Source for ALT3: https://www.djournal.com/mississippi-today/the-story-behind-the-technology-that-mississippi-votes-uses-to/article_8fe12716-715e-56e3-9a32-fc3a38f033e8.html Arekia Bennett throws herself into a chair in front of a dark red accent wall and rattles off a list of positions she hopes to fill as quickly as possible at Mississippi Votes, the nonprofit she has led as executive director for almost a year. <break> More specifically, they focus on people ages 18 to 35 as well as young queer people and people who have experienced the juvenile justice system.
CaptainAngus (talk) 01:44, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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...Well, Better Than the Alternative

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Created by Koopastar (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Koopastar (talk) 02:06, 22 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 22

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No net loss environmental policy

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Created by Manxshearwater (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Manxshearwater (talk) 14:30, 26 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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Maryvonne Le Dizès

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Created by Rigg (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2115 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:16, 28 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • This will need a new hook per WP:DYKINT, as the hook as currently written is not likely to be perceived as interesting or unusual by people without specialist knowledge. It is reliant on names and knowledge unknown to most readers, and her writing the trio is part of her job and may not meet scrutiny from other reviewers. My suggestion would be to propose a hook about her being the first woman to win the Paganini Competition (which is an exceptional claim, but shouldn't be hard to prove), while adding context about the competition for the benefit of general readers. A hook about her quote "Teaching is as vital to me as playing my instrument. I cannot teach if I do not play, and I cannot play without teaching." might also work. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:02, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Kindly read the article (or just the hook). She didn't compose as far as we know. The competition is just one of those "first" hooks we were told to avoid. The special thing about her - compared to other violinists - is that she played in this influential ensemble of contemporary music, and people who don't know it get a chance to change that. Being of influence in the composition of new works is a more unusual contribution to world culture than winning a competition, and the combination of instruments is unusual as well. She devoted her life to contemporary music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:23, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CurryTime7-24 and Launchballer: Do you see anything in the article that could work as a hook? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:43, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CurryTime7-24, Launchballer, ScottishFinnishRadish, and Valereee: Please look and also read above. As you may have read on my talk, she - whom I also didn't know - became dear to me. Did you know should be about something people don't know, imho. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:03, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was going to suggest something like "that when Maryvonne Le Dizes became the first woman and first foreigner to enter the Carnegie Hall competition, she was performing less to focus on her children" on the grounds that they'll keep a record of all its competitors, so there's little danger of us being proved wrong. I'm not seeing how the source backs up that her appearance took place in that time period though. I could also recommend "that the violinist Maryvonne Le Dizes "cannot play without teaching"" but that seems less than reverent.--Launchballer 09:36, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the ideas! In order to run a beauty contest, better format them in a way that a promoter could take them without changes. I hope that we can get "contemporary music" in because that's truly what distinguishes her from most violinists with a DYK that I met. Fewer performances because of children is no surprise. Finding teaching essential as nothing that could be said only about her. For examples:
ALT3: ... that Maryvonne Le Dizès, the first woman to win the Paganini Competition, became a long-term violinist of the ensemble intercontemporain?
'ALT4': ... that Maryvonne Le Dizès, the first woman to win the Paganini Competition, became a long-term violinist of the ensemble intercontemporain run by Pierre Boulez?
Pierre Boulez, featured article, centenary next year, is a name that Main page readers should know. However: He will be TFA on his centenary next year, - why promote him? Same for the other with whom she collaborated there, György Ligeti, centenary last year and celebrated. (Remember Le Grand Macabre)? So why promote him? The composer I found has a decent article and should be known more. Commissioning new music is unusual, and should be known more. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:26, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Probably not a popular opinion, but I feel modifying ALT 3 and 4 thusly would be the best solution here:
ALT1: ... that Maryvonne Le Dizès was the first woman to win the Paganini Competition?
"Long-term violinist" doesn't sound idiomatic. (It reminded me in passing of "Part-Time Lover"!) To you and me, working with the EC and Boulez is a big deal, but to the average person who would potentially read those hooks, it means nothing. Another ALT just came to me after re-reading the article...
ALT2: ... that for the violinist Maryvonne Le Dizès, "teaching was as vital as playing [her] instrument"?Source: Ibid.
I get where Gerda is coming from, but I feel the most successful hooks rely on exactly the sort of facts that she wants to avoid here. Whereas her preference to mention Le Dizès' work in modern music seems to me a tough sell for the casual reader unaware of classical music. Of course, what do I know? Please feel free to disagree! ;) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:12, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the ALTs and especially for thinking.
"tough sell" - I am not here to sell but to inform, and that goes for the Main page as for articles. I am here to inform about the less known topics, about minorities, and want a place for those, and that goes for the Main page as well. I am here for team spirit, and like her being part of an ensemble most of all, not a virtuoso soloist. I want to give some idea of this to the reader of the one sentence who will not click. Please find a way. - I renamed your ALTs because they were the ideas from above, - why I began with ALT3.
ALT3a: ... that Maryvonne Le Dizès, the first woman to win the Paganini Competition, became violinist of the ensemble intercontemporain? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I could also call it ALT1a, trying not to leave the impression of her with good old virtuoso Paganini and competition winning alone. Repeating: she dedicated her life to contemporary music, and the name of the ensemble shows that elegantly. ALT1 requires knowledge of Paganini having been a violinist to deduce that she was a violinist, - isn't that asking too much from our general audience? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

full review needed :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:14, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article was nominated five days after creation and is long enough and adequately sourced. The sourcing is largely independent and reliable, and is adequate. Right now Earwig gives me the "Too Many Requests" error so I will return to this and check for close paraphrasing once that is done. A QPQ has been provided. ALT2 is probably the cutest hook here and thus the best option, because it's somewhat surprising and isn't reliant on deep knowledge of classical music. ALT1 is the second-best option here: I know "first" hooks are not well-received on DYK these days, but this is an example that's easy to verify and thus does not require extraordinary evidence: if a full list of competition winners can be provided and added to the article, that should suffice for sourcing. I would also suggest modifying ALT1 to give brief context on the competition for the benefit of general readers. As much as Gerda is partial to ALT3 and variants, CurryTime has a point that it may be too focused on appealing to classical music fans instead of general readers. This will be given final approval once Earwig is working again. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:56, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think that I clearly said that I won't accept any hook that doesn't show that she was dedicated to contemporary music and ensemble playing. Give minorities a place on the Main page, please ;) - ALT3a has the"first woman" aspect, so offers general appeal. The words "ensemble" and "intercontemporain" are clear to any reader, not "reliant on deep knowledge of classical music". Please think about it. ALT2 is cute, correct, but nothing about her specific accomplishments. It could be said by almost any music teacher giving lessons. CurryTime7-24 has not yet commented on ALT3a. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:16, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda, this is a recurring issue with your nominations: you assume too much about general readership's knowledge of classical music. A general reader would almost certainly not know what a "intercontemporain" is (especially when it's a French term). CurryTime has a point and has already said his piece: the best option here is the angle that appeals to general readers, even if they are not necessarily what you want. WP:DYKINT is clear on this: the hook has to be likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing to people lacking specialist knowledge. ALT2 is an easy to understand and catchy hook that does not require specialist knowledge. ALT3 and its variants require knowledge of the Paganini Competition and the Ensemble intercontemporain, which only a minuscule fraction of our readership have. You are essentially pleading for an IAR exemption to DYKINT given that you would rather push for a hook that primarily appeals to you rather than to general readership. Gerda, I understand that you are an expert on classical music, but again, I have to repeat that very few others who are going to read the article are, and even your fellow classical music expert CurryTime prefers a more generalist hook. I have already given my thoughts, and based on WP:DYKINT and other factors, I will only be approving ALT2.
In any case, I was able to make Earwig work and there is an issue: excluding the quote, I am seeing some similarities with the wording at this link. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:35, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is a recurring issue with your reviews. You seem to not have read my post above. Trying to be patient: The first part of ALT3 has already the general appeal you want. The second part doesn't require any knowledge. "Ensemble" is even an English word. "intercontemporain" is close enough to "contemporary". People not interested in that part can simply be attracted by the first part, but we can come closer to her key interests in a few words. Please consider. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is something I have repeatedly brought up because it is something that keeps occurring. It has been an issue for several years, one raised by multiple editors, and one that contributes to classical music hooks generally underperforming in terms of readership. It also contributed to the current wording of WP:DYKINT following an RfC that originated from a similar case. I have already considered ALT3 and its variants, and ultimately, ALT2 is a better option. Even if we go with ALT1, with just the Paganini Competition angle, additional context would have to be added for readers to understand why the competition is a big deal. We cannot just simply rely on them clicking on the link: they need to get the context right from the start. I am open to approving a version of ALT1 with additional context, but ALT3 and variants are simply non-starters. You are assuming too much of a general reader.
The general reader will not easily make the "intercontemporain" = contemporary connection, and the hook does not even make it clear that 1. The Ensemble intercontemporain is the name of a specific group, and 2. that it is a big deal. ALT3 relies too much on specialist information, ALT2 is easy to understand. It may not necessarily be "specific" to her, but it's far more likely to achieve your goal of having readers learn more about Le Dizès. A hook like ALT2 is more likely to have more people read her article and learn about her achievements like joining the ensemble contemporain, than a hook that will just confuse readership and drive readers away (a recurring issue with classical music hooks that are reliant on specialist knowledge).
In any case, the close paraphrasing issue will still need to be addressed regardless of hook, so if that cannot be addressed, this whole discussion is moot anyway. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:13, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree with the Paganini Competition "context would have to be added for readers to understand why the competition is a big deal". For the Olympics, you would not say so, right? Any competition with an article is notable. Any ensemble with an article is notable. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:40, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've done some rewriting. I don't know if there is another way to write "a string trio by Jean-Baptiste Devillers, a trio for saxophone, trombone and violin by Gilbert Amy". CMD (talk) 07:21, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You mean that Earwig is not working for you, or what? - CMD: no, "some person's work" does not have to be changed. It's not phrasing by an author that would need protection. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:18, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you. Now that the paraphrasing issues are approved, ALT2 only is approved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:04, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    We can do two things now. I believe that she is too special to have a hook that could have been said by any school music teacher at any time in any culture, while the Paganini competition would at least credit her as "high achiever" in an "international competition" and present some time frame. To me ALT2 is almost meaningless without context, and highly unspecific. I can withdraw, or find a different reviewer, CurryTime perhaps. I try the latter. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:32, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As a compromise, would you be okay with the following hook then?
ALT4 ... that for Maryvonne Le Dizès, who became the first woman to win the Paganini Competition in 1962, "teaching was as vital as playing [her] instrument"?
As I mentioned above, the Ensemble intercontemporain angle is a non-starter. Also pinging CurryTime7-24 for his thoughts, as requested. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:41, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT4 doesn't work as explained above. We can't expect that people will gather from the competition's name or article that she was a violinist, and "[her] instrument" - besides being clumsy - makes no sense if we don't know which instrument that was. I also seem not to have been clear about that some form of "contemporary music" is a must for me in her case, because it sets her apart from all other violinist I have met on Wikipedia. I think that CurryTime may understand that--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:50, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did not find it clear from the current article that contemporary music was a particular passion. I have added a bit from one source, but also see various bits in this source (French) which help express that too. Perhaps adding that to the article would help. Reading that source, I do think there is merit to mentioning the Paganini competition in the hook, as she states a meeting because of it was one of her best memories (mes plus beaux souvenirs), and this source feels it important enough for the sub-headline. For any hook, we could append "violinist" or "contemporary violinist" before her name at the least. CMD (talk) 12:04, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT4a ... that for contemporary violinist Maryvonne Le Dizès, who became the first woman to win the Paganini Competition in 1962, "teaching was as vital as playing [her] instrument"?
@Chipmunkdavis: Like that? What are your thoughts on the Ensemble intercontemporain angle? It's 172 characters though which is already making the hook rather long, maybe longer than necessary. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:52, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's also another possible angle, which would be only to focus on the Paganini Competition angle, but with additional context. The context, however, would need to be added to the article as well:
ALT5 ... that Maryvonne Le Dizès was the first woman to win the Paganini Competition, one of the world's most prestigious violin competitions?
The year is probably unnecessary since it would add too much complexity to the hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:55, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Some sources do seem to highlight her contemporary music. "I am passionate about working with composers," Le Dizès said in a 1998 interview of why she chose to make contemporary music her life. "Being able to discuss a score with its author, seeing together what is possible or not, trying to realize it with them." from [21] for example. I don't know if mentioning the ensemble specifically is necessary, but hopefully mentioning she is a contemporary violinist will suffice for that angle. CMD (talk) 14:37, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I like ALTs 4a and 5. And thank you to Narutolovehinata5 for making an effort to celebrate musicianship in hooks. This makes a nice change from on the one hand seeing music hooks in which too many facts are squeezed (instead of being simple lead-ins to the article which has all the facts) and on the other hand hooks which treat musicianship as if it were something to hide like a skeleton in a cupboard. So if 4a and 5 are where this discussion is set to end, then congratulations to both of you. Storye book (talk) 14:57, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the efforts! Sorry, I'm not there yet. ALT4: "contemporary violinist" means no more than that she is playing in our time, not what she is playing. Also the timing is sort of wrong, - first she won that competition, and decades later she was a teacher, while this "who became" sounds to me as if it came later. ALT5: no, we don't have to tell readers this "most prestigious" stuff. They know or can find out. We could also say that she played in the "ensemble intercontemporain, one of the most prestigious ensembles for contemporary music", but it's a waste of characters. We wouldn't speak of the "Olympic Games, one of the most prestigious sports tournaments". Let's trust that our readers know to use a link. I still believe that ALT3a is our best choice so far, because it combines a pinnacle early moment - thank you, CMD! - with what she played and recorded for decades, collaborating with some the greatest composers in the field. . Improving the article is most welcome. I worked on Friedrich Schorlemmer for hours, and now comes a Bach cantata for its 300th birthday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:21, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see nothing wrong with ALT3a - I ignored it only because when I commented, it had already been struck out. I think, to be fair to both sides of the above polarised arguments, we should unstrike ALT3a to give a fair choice for the promoter. Storye book (talk) 16:33, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The issue here is that ALT3a simply fails WP:DYKINT: it is unlikely to be perceived as interesting or unusual to readers without specialist knowledge. ALT3a is reliant on knowing the ensemble, which I imagine even most classical music fans do not know. CurryTime already said it would be preferrable to not use that angle, while CMD said something similar. Three people (myself and two other editors) have either objected to that angle or would prefer something else, so that is already a non-starter. I understand that the ensemble is close to Gerda's heart, but as I've mentioned in many nominations prior: the interests of readership are more important than that of the nominator. ALT4a fits DYKINT better since the primary point (the quote) is not reliant on knowledge that most readers do not have. It is also somewhat of a compromise: it mentions the competition, but does not make it the highlight and thus is not as reliant on specialist knowledge as ALT3a or any variants thereof. One could argue that explaining the ensemble would improve ALT3a, but the thing is, even if that's done, there's already a more suitable option in ALT4a. I imagine more people will click on the article if ALT4a is used than if it's ALT3a.
To back up my point about how DYKINT and appealing to general readers helps, when Maxim Berezovsky ran on DYK this month, it got 8,848 views. This is above average for a Gerda nomination, and that's taking into account that it wasn't even in the image slot. By contrast, in the past, when Gerda's hooks that followed her preferred style or facts ran, they were usually among the worst-viewed hooks of the month, getting around 2,000 to 3,000 views per run. The hook used a fact that was more likely to appeal to general audiences, rather than specifically to classical music buffs. By using a generalist hook, more people ended up reading more about Berezovsky than would have happened otherwise. If Gerda wants to highlight her prowess in the violin and her achievements, it may seem paradoxical, but a generalist hook intended to make people interested in reading her article (and thus meeting DYKINT), as opposed to just simply showing off her highlights without additional context, is more likely to do that than a specialist hook.
In any case, if we are to go with ALT5, the fact about the competition being among the most prestigious needs to be in Le Dizès's article, as right now it's only in the competition article. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:21, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I patiently disagree. It is not a specialist hook. ALT3a is not reliant on knowing the ensemble, it is not reliant on knowing the importance of the ensemble. It tells any reader that - after winning that prize - she went into ensemble playing, which is almost quirky and says much more about her than the prize alone. It tells people who know the ensemble a bit more, and it tells people who know that it is one of the "most prestigious" ensembles of contemporary music, possibly the most prestigious ensemble, yet a bit more, and I like that. See also my story on Schoenberg's 150th birthday, with a 2010 hook and a 2014 hook, - the latter a hook about his 40th birthday on his 140th birthday (review). I'm quite proud of that ;) - (I didn't even try for this year. imagine why. I brought him to OTD instead.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:44, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Given that they are knowledgeable about DYKINT, asking Launchballer to weigh in on the hooks, and if possible to give this nomination a tick so this can move forward already. In the interest of compromise, I am asking Launchballer to check ALT3a, ALT4a, and ALT5, although for now I am leaving ALT3a struck unless Launchballer says it can proceed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Atsuko Tanaka (voice actress)

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5x expanded by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 52 past nominations.

ミラP@Miraclepine 16:20, 26 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Diet culture

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  • ... that diet culture was intertwined with scientific racism in the late 19th century, including the common belief among medical practitioners that black women were unable to control their consumption?
  • Source: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-racist-roots-of-fighting-obesity2/, “In the eyes of many medical practitioners in the late 19th century, Black women were destined to die off along with the men of their race because of their presumed inability to control their “animal appetites”—eating, drinking and fornicating. These presumptions were not backed by scientific data but instead embodied the prevailing racial scientific logic at the time. Later, some doctors wanted to push Black men to reform their aesthetic preferences. Valorizing voluptuousness in Black women, these physicians claimed, validated their unhealthy diets, behaviors and figures.”
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: I’m open to alternative hook ideas. Thank you very much!
Moved to mainspace by FortunateSons (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

FortunateSons (talk) 17:20, 23 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Dilaw (song)

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  • ... that "Dilaw" was a dominant song in the Philippines and gained international recognition?
  • ALT2: ... that the creator of "Dilaw" is a leading OPM artist with the most listeners on Spotify?
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: The title of Dilaw (Maki song) changed to Dilaw (song).
Created by Royiswariii (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Royiswariii (talk) 16:01, 23 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Not a review, but the hooks are a bit suspicious. The hooks have a summary of the song, which isn't regularly added to hooks, maybe trim like this? ALT0:... that "Dilaw" was the dominating song in the Philippines and international too? and ALT1: ... that "Dilaw" was entered on Billboard Philippines securing the number one spot, and the Spotify Global Chart entered at number 200? and I also saw two "hooks" in alt1, which can be added here, ALT2: ... that the creator of the song Dilaw is a male OPM artist with the most listeners on Spotify? Thanks, 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 11:53, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Typhoon Virginia (1957)

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  • ... that along with fatalities and damages, 1957's Typhoon Virginia also damaged 14 ships?
Created by TheNuggeteer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 16 past nominations.

🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 13:18, 23 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Typhoons in Taiwan

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Created by TheNuggeteer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 15 past nominations.

🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 07:26, 23 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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Statue of John Stockton

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  • ... that the sculptor re-positioned the statue of John Stockton about 20 times by using a wrench to adjust ball-and-socket joints on steel rods?
Moved to mainspace by Left guide (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Left guide (talk) 13:53, 26 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

References

  1. ^ Robinson, Doug (June 14, 2004). "Sculpting Stockton no way a slam-dunk". Deseret News. Retrieved August 24, 2024.
  2. ^ Kalbrosky, Bryan (January 25, 2022). "Somebody put a mask on a John Stockton statue because he refuses to do it himself". USA Today. Retrieved August 24, 2024.
  3. ^ McCarriston, Shanna (January 25, 2022). "Fan puts face mask on John Stockton statue outside of Jazz's Vivint Arena". CBS Sports. Retrieved August 24, 2024.

Bed Chem

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  • Source:Vulture verifies the Keoghan bit, and the "horny" categorization and euphemism is from Slate and Capital
Converted from a redirect by MaranoFan (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 72 past nominations.

NØ 14:11, 25 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Albert Bumgardner

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  • ... that the Pacific Architect & Builder boosted Albert Bumgardner's career after he designed the magazine's office building?
Created by Generalissima (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 76 past nominations.

Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 19:27, 24 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Ibsen Nelsen

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Created by Generalissima (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 75 past nominations.

Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 19:17, 24 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Slave-owning slaves

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Pope Callixtus I, former slave of a slave of a slave
Pope Callixtus I, former slave of a slave of a slave
  • Source: Gamauf (2023),"Peculium: Paradoxes of Slaves With Property". In Schermaier, Martin (ed.). The Position of Roman Slaves: Social Realities and Legal Differences. Berlin and Boston: De Gruyter. pp. 87–124. doi:10.1515/9783110987195.
  • Reviewed:
Created by Ttocserp (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Ttocserp 15:37, 24 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: No - Per DYK rules, you need at minimum one citation at the end of each paragraph that covers all content preceding it. You also need a source for all statements introduced in captions (not cited elsewhere in the article) that go beyond identification of the image's subject. I've added some cn tags where a citation is missing, or axed transition sentences that Wikipedia tends not to use, but I may have missed some.
  • Neutral: No - I'd like to see the talk page complaint resolved
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Yes
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Interesting article. Please consider WP:GAN! (t · c) buidhe 00:44, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, my laptop was off being repaired. I would gladly adress the concerns, but someone has put on a template saying it reads like a personal essay. (Why is not explained; I got everything from the sources.). What should I do?Ttocserp 21:55, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If Callixtus I was a slave owned by a slave owned by a slave, he wouldn't be an example of a slave who owned a slave, would he? Or at least not necessarily. Bremps... 06:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Callixtus is an instance of a sub-sub-slave not a slaveowner himself. But it is true the caption needs to be amended.Ttocserp 09:22, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Typhoon Nat (1991)

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The track of Typhoon Nat
The track of Typhoon Nat
  • ... that 1991's Typhoon Nat was described as having an erratic track (pictured)?
Converted from a redirect by TheNuggeteer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.

🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 12:36, 24 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - The hook is located under Analysis, which contains no inline citations.
  • Interesting: Yes
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The above issues need to be addressed. Also, the article calls the track "erratic," which makes more sense than "erroneous," which is the word the hook uses. Ergo Sum 16:01, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • @TheNuggeteer: Thanks for adding the inline citation. However, since that is a 96 page PDF, there should be citations to specific pages at each inline use, for example, using {{Sfn}}. I did a quick control-F search in that PDF and "erratic" does not come up, so citation to a specific page is necessary. Ergo Sum 01:53, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Self-Ish

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Created by Koopastar (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Koopastar (talk) 07:11, 31 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Happy of the End

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  • ... that Ogeretsu Tanaka wanted to draw a manga series featuring scenery in Shinjuku, which led to the creation of Happy of the End?
Created by Lullabying (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 59 past nominations.

lullabying (talk) 03:50, 31 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Pell v The Queen

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Moved to mainspace by MaxnaCarta (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

— MaxnaCarta  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:59, 27 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

2024 Ohio Issue 1

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  • ... that the Republican-led Ohio Ballot Board was sued because its official summary for Ohio Issue 1, designed to improve redistricting, stated instead that the initiative would require gerrymandering?
  • Source: the Board's summary "describes the amendment, which is specifically intended to prevent partisan gerrymandering, as specifically requiring it."
https://apnews.com/article/ohio-gerrymandering-redistricting-bd589ead234436f1b113b35d28c71cc7#
Created by ProfGray (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

ProfGray (talk) 17:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Time (2021 film)

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Created by Prince of Erebor (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 12 past nominations.

Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 13:19, 26 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

References

  1. ^ Lim, Ruey Yan (18 July 2022). "Patrick Tse is oldest Best Actor winner at Hong Kong Film Awards". The Straits Times. Archived from the original on 24 August 2024. Retrieved 24 August 2024. Veteran actor Patrick Tse has become the oldest actor to win the Best Actor prize at the Hong Kong Film Awards (HKFA) on Sunday (July 17), while Anita, the biopic on late Cantopop superstar Anita Mui, was the biggest winner with five awards. Tse, 85, won the award for his role as a retired assassin in the black comedy Time, which also starred veteran actress Petrina Fung Bo Bo, actor Lam Suet and former radio DJ Chung Suet Ying.
  2. ^ "Dad joins son with film award". The Standard. 19 July 2022. Archived from the original on 19 July 2022. Retrieved 24 August 2024. Patrick Tse Yin, aged 85, has become the oldest Best Actor winner in the Hong Kong Film Awards for his role in the 2021 film Time.

Milan A. P. Harminc

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  • Source: Mikuláš Teich, Dušan Kováč, Martin D. Brown. Slovakia in History. Cambridge University Press, 2011. pp. 194-195
Created by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 394 past nominations.

Soman (talk) 18:11, 25 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]


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YSL Records racketeering trial

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Created by CFA (talk) and 64.189.246.115 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

C F A 💬 02:14, 27 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Félag hljómplötuframleiðenda

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Created by Muhandes (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 53 past nominations.

Muhandes (talk) 11:25, 26 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Michael P. Walsh (Jesuit)

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  • Source: Clark, Alfred E. (April 24, 1982). "Rev. Michael Walsh, Headed Fordham During Fiscal Crisis". The New York Times. p. 11. Archived from the original on November 19, 2022. Retrieved August 28, 2023.: "During his years at Boston College, he saw its enrollment greatly expand, supervised the construction of 15 new buildings..."
Moved to mainspace by Ergo Sum (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 106 past nominations.

Ergo Sum 04:51, 26 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]


Articles created/expanded on August 27

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You Liked This (Okay, Computer!)

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Created by Koopastar (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Koopastar (talk) 05:22, 5 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Hermética (album)

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5x expanded by Cambalachero (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 124 past nominations.

Cambalachero (talk) 15:08, 28 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Centre of Indian Communists

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  • Source: Manoranjan Mohanty. Revolutionary Violence: A Study of the Maoist Movement in India. Sterling Publishers, 1977. pp. xxi, 166
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Flag of Rwanda
  • Comment: In 2019 this article was converted into a long incoherent essay, with most of the material unrelated to CIC and references used that didn't mention the group at all. I removed all of that, and began expanding from how the article had looked before.
5x expanded by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 395 past nominations.

Soman (talk) 22:16, 27 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I'm going to WP:BOLDLY reject this nom. Uncited and rambling-essay-like text still counts as part of the word count especially when it's around ~ 3 years (unless the text was a copyvio). The way I see it, you went from a 8453 byte article to a 2372 byte article which isn't what DYK eligibility is about. (If I have made a mistake, any reviewer is free to overturn this descision.) Sohom (talk) 03:10, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm confused: did you mean to comment on this nomination, or a different one? This is your own nomination, but your comment above seems to be talking about a nomination other than your own. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:06, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Sohom Datta: Fixed ping. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Narutolovehinata5 The account creating the nom is Soman (who has been around for a lot longer) and I'm Sohom Datta, both of whom are very different people. Sohom (talk) 11:13, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about that, I got confused there; I even tried using hovercards to make sure I wasn't seeing things. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:17, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This does seem like this could qualify for IAR, given that the content removed qualified for WP:TNT. I've had a couple of articles accepted on similar grounds (Donna Taggart due to COI expansions, Simone Murphy for BLP violations). That said, a lead section should probably be added and probably some subsections.--Launchballer 14:00, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lede expanded and sections added. --Soman (talk) 22:30, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, although I've split them into subsections. I'll let an actual reviewer adjudicate on this.--Launchballer 19:06, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of wikipedians, myself included, do ground-up rewrites for pretty much every article they approach. But I think there's a difference between wanting to start from scratch because familiarizing yourself with others' content is challenging and starting from scratch because the previous article is a policy violation. In this case, while the article clearly had major problems in structure and formatting, I'm seeing a fair amount of content that wasn't violating any particular policy, and the article could have reasonably preserved it. It also doesn't look like the article could have been eligible for any kind of deletion. So, I don't think I could reasonably call this a new article, unfortunately. As such, I'm marking for closure as ineligible, but my thanks to Soman for submitting a healthy article otherwise :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:31, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. So I'd just emphasize that the pre-expansion article version as of Aug 27 could have qualified for WP:HOAX. There were a various false claims made about the CIC in this article, that seem to be completely made up by the wiki author and with fake references (or rather, real books and articles, but that don't mention CIC at all). The Aug 27 may look like a decent article at a glance, albeit with some need need for copy-editing, but once going through the references it was all fake. --Soman (talk) 10:50, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aviation Accidents in Japan Involving U.S. Military and Government Aircraft Post-World War II

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Created by Global Donald (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Global Donald (talk) 02:19, 27 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 28

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Dim Montero

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  • ... that Dim Montero "could pick up a rock and find an outstanding football prospect"?
Improved to Good Article status by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 242 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:27, 6 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Eddie Canales

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  • Source: Eddie Canales, who campaigned to prevent migrant deaths, dies at 76, Washington Post: "For years, when unidentified bodies were recovered in the county, they were buried, at times in unmarked graves. Mr. Canales and other activists helped push for the enforcement of a Texas law mandating that unidentified remains undergo DNA testing, and championed the exhumation of unidentified bodies from the county cemetery... The effort led to a horrifying revelation when researchers exhuming a mass burial site at the cemetery found remains “in trash bags, shopping bags, body bags, or no containers at all,”"
Created by Mrfoogles (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Mrfoogles (talk) 22:35, 4 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Eniaios

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  • Source: "Since 2004, the work has been revealed two or three cycles at a time, at intervals of four years" [22]
Created by Hinnk (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 41 past nominations.

hinnk (talk) 22:57, 30 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Maximiliano Hernández Martínez

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Maximiliano Hernández Martínez
Maximiliano Hernández Martínez
Improved to Good Article status by PizzaKing13 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 15:30, 30 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

El Eternauta: tercera parte

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Moved to mainspace by Cambalachero (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 125 past nominations.

Cambalachero (talk) 18:49, 29 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - See below.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new and long enough. No problems with Earwig. A few small issues, however. Some of the material in the article lack citations. For example, the lead contains two statements that are missing citations to confirm (they're not confirmed anywhere in the article body). The entire "Plot" section is unsourced. The proposed hook itself is interesting, but needs to be rewritten. It states that Héctor Germán Oesterheld himself was a character in his own comic, who was retained after he died. In fact, the cited source states that the character of Germán was "Oesterheld's character" ("el personaje de Oesterheld"), but does not explicitly state that it is him. (Native Spanish speaker here, by the way.) The source makes clear that the character is certainly based on him; the hook needs to be reworded accordingly. Another detail that needs to be ironed out is that the hook unequivocally states that Oesterheld is dead. However, all sources I've read state that he is presumed dead. Even if his death is certain, I'm not sure that it could've been declared official at the time this third part of the comic was published in 1981, while the Dirty War was still ongoing. Otherwise, this is a very interesting article about a subject I previously had zero knowledge of! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:40, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • I have rewritten the lead. Plot sections of articles about works of fiction do not require citations; it is accepted that the book itself is the source. That Oesterheld included himself as a character within the first two stories he wrote does not need to be referenced either, for similar reasons (he's not even the first author who uses that trick, see here). The hook, however, focuses on the real-life stuff about the character. As for his death, it is correct that his death had never been officially confirmed by the military, but his kidnapping was denounced by the family and other organizations shortly after April 1977, and informed by Cadena Informativa on September 1977. It's all in reference 1. A bit off-topic for this article (better suited for HGO's biography, or the second part), but clearly not a situation that Ediciones Record didn't know. They may be in the dark about the details, but not about their star writer being missing and reported kidnapped by the military. Cambalachero (talk) 01:31, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Over My Dead Body (2023 film)

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  • ... that Jer Lau, who starred in the film Over My Dead Body, also performed its theme song because the director felt his role was too minor?
Created by Prince of Erebor (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 12:45, 29 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

References

  1. ^ "死屍死時四十四｜何爵天專訪 自認鏡粉睇中「Jerdan」化學作用 搵柳應廷唱高難度主題曲「加戲」" (in Chinese). am730. 26 March 2023. Archived from the original on 28 August 2024. Retrieved 26 August 2024. 何導更自爆嫌客串演出的阿Jer戲份太少，故特地找他唱高難度的電影主題曲《鹹魚遊戲》，並呼籲觀眾要一戲呵成聽埋首主題曲。 [Director Ho (Cheuk Tin) even revealed that he found Jer Lau's cameo role too small, so he specifically invited him to sing the challenging theme song "Salted Fish Game" as well, urging the audience to listen closely to the theme song as they watch the film.]

Kitsap (Suquamish leader)

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  • Source: Buerge (2017)[23] p.33: "....when the Suquamish chief Kitsap organized a confederacy to meet a threat from the north."

Ibid. p. 41-42: "The most feared were the Cowichan ... Slave raids had led the Cowichan far from their homes in search of human merchandise ... by spreading havoc on the sound, they likely intended to eliminate rivals and make the HBC come to them"

Ibid. p.42: "The confederation Kitsap engineered stretched from central Puget Sound to the Columbia River, and Old Man House was its nexus."

Ibid. p. 43: "The attack likely took place around 1825 ... Kitsap and other Suquamish men took the lead"
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Created by PersusjCP (talk) and SeaTraff (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

PersusjCP (talk) 16:51, 28 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Afrique Victime

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  • ... that Mdou Moctar's Afrique Victime was also released on Nokia devices (specifically the Nokia 6120) to honor his former albums?
Improved to Good Article status by TheNuggeteer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 19 past nominations.

🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 03:41, 28 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • GA status confirmed, date is fine. Various GA-related quality aspects confirmed as meeting DYK standards. Still needs a QPQ review. Hook needs improvements; not Nokia devices, but a single device (the article states "In homage to his first albums, which he spread using Bluetooth, he released a collector's edition Nokia 6120 handset."). And while this is not a DYK concern, I think this part of the article should be expanded - how can one spread albums using Bluetooth? How does one include an album in a handset (the source states it was pre-loaded onto a classic handset, which is confusing - what exactly was that item)? If I was a GA reviewer I'd expect this to be addressed (expanded with clarifications in the text). Ping GA reviewer User:Vigilantcosmicpenguin.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:02, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Finished the hook request. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 09:04, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Seed oil misinformation

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  • ... that despite a panic to the contrary, most researchers think seed oils are healthy and reduce the risk of cardiovascular disease?
  • Source: "most cardiovascular health researchers believe omega-6 fatty acids are safe and healthy. The American Heart Association has stated that a reduction in omega-6 fatty acids could lead to an increase, not reduction, in cardiovascular disease."
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: I understand this is beyond the seven-day limit; however, I'd like to request an extension for two reasons. First, that this is my first DYK so I didn't know there was a deadline; and second, that this is a medical-related topic so it's best that the article has been shown to be stable.
Moved to mainspace by Dan Leonard (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Dan • ✉ 04:24, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Way too weak. It's not a "most researchers think" thing; the seed oil misinformation is utter nonsense on many levels. Bon courage (talk) 06:01, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article was nominated two weeks after creation, which is far beyond the seven day limit, or even the two-day extension that is built in into DYK. As such, the article is ineligible for DYK. Although leniency is sometimes granted to DYK newcomers, two weeks is too long for what is usually granted. My suggestion is to nominate the article for GA status: it may be a challenge given that it is a medicine-related article but it should be achievable. Once the article is a GA it can be renominated for DYK. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:33, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just noting that this was moved to mainspace on 29 August and nominated on 9 September, so a smidge under 11 days. Still a big ask though.--Launchballer 02:17, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lake Erie Walleye Trail fishing tournament cheating scandal

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Created by Daniel Case (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 281 past nominations.

Daniel Case (talk) 19:34, 5 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

BenSw

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  • ... that BenSw is the face behind the NotLikeThis meme?
Created by Fluddsskark (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 50 past nominations.

paul2520 💬 14:55, 3 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: I provided one as part of the nomination. See Reviewed above! = paul2520 💬 12:02, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Norma Bahia Pontes

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Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 54 past nominations.

ミラP@Miraclepine 03:29, 2 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

List of oral repositories

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Created by Kowal2701 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Kowal2701 (talk) 16:25, 31 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Actinote zikani

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Created by Sir MemeGod (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 12:36, 30 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

KXXV

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Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 708 past nominations.

Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 05:29, 30 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Not a review (and as much as I'm thankful for you reviewing three of my GAs, I still review oldest first!), but it took me a while to parse ALT0, as I wrongly assumed it was missing the word "who". I would suggest either "once described as" instead of "claimed to be" or taking out "a man claimed to be". (Also, you mentioned that The Cock Destroyers was a red link at Talk:Megan Barton-Hanson/GA1, and you may be interested to know it now has an article.)--Launchballer 17:18, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Right and the Wrong

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To say this topic's title sounds highly reminiscent of the Bell Dramatic Serial soaps...but that's besides the point here.
For those keeping track on XTools (at least for the next couple of hours), this nomination officially marks my 20,000th edit on the English Wikipedia--14 years after my last milestone. (Helped a lot--and then some--by my ongoing backlog-clearance drive of AFC's unassessed list, whose near-conclusion my pitch also coincides with.) Many thanks to those I've met on this edition ever since February 2005--whether they're still editing or not.
Seriously, WP needs more coverage on audiovisual media from the Commonwealth Caribbean--and we've only just started by now. A special shout-out to Trinidadian stalwart Guettarda (talk · contribs · count), and CaribDigita (talk · contribs · count) of Barbados; as an occasional reminder, I'm a Commonwealth of Dominica expatriate. Guettarda's recent essay, "Decolonizing Wikipedia" (which I discovered several hours before press time), is recommended reading for future Caribbean-based editors. Here's hoping more from my own native homeland take up the mantle from here.
As always, stay tuned for several more candidates of mine in the months to come. Take care--and I'll see you back!
P.S. Reddit's loss had better be this community's gain--and I know it as a veteran of both platforms. (It'll be Digg all over again when reports of the userbase's vitriol this week over an extremely loathed, uncalled-for UI revamp hit the wires of The New York Times et al....if they ever do--and they should.)
Moved to mainspace by Slgrandson (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 11 past nominations.

Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 02:47, 30 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - some
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks mostly good. Have to AGF on the paywalled source. As for the hook, the article seems a bit unclear: the hook says one of the first two in Trinidad, but all I see in the prose of the article is 1970's The Right and the Wrong and The Caribbean Fox, both directed by Harbance Kumar, were the first English-speaking films to be produced natively in the West Indies. Could you clarify in the article that it is one of the first two Trinidad films if that is the case? Also, would it be better to say it is one of the first two films produced in Trinidad, rather than by Trinidad? BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:17, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@BeanieFan11: checkY Fixed.
ALT0a: ... that The Right and the Wrong was the first feature film produced natively in Trinidad and Tobago? Source: Paddington, Bruce; Warner, Keith Q. (Winter 2009). "The Emergence of Caribbean Feature Films". Black Camera. 1 (1). Indiana University Press: 94, 98–99. doi:10.2979/blc.2009.1.1.91. JSTOR 10.2979/blc.2009.1.1.91. S2CID 144560687. Retrieved 2024-08-29 – via JSTOR.
--Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 07:52, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shinichi Ishizuka

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Created by Link20XX (talk). Self-nominated at 00:21, 30 August 2024 (UTC). [reply]

Manhood: The Masculine Virtues America Needs

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Moved to mainspace by Bobby Cohn (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Bobby Cohn (talk) 00:13, 30 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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Mitch Torres

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"We chat to self-proclaimed damper destroyer Mitch (pictured, right) about family cooking rivalries, top-secret ingredients and living off the land." Hegarty, Siobhan (29 January 2015). "18 minutes with Mitch Torres". SBS Food. Special Broadcasting Service. Retrieved 30 August 2024.
Created by Ornithoptera (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 40 past nominations.

Ornithoptera (talk) 20:28, 7 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Brenden Bates

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5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 244 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:44, 6 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra

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Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 56 past nominations.

ミラP@Miraclepine 15:33, 4 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Filomena Fortes

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Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 55 past nominations.

ミラP@Miraclepine 15:22, 4 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Destruction of cultural heritage during the Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip

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The ruins of Al-Amin Muhammad mosque in Khan Younis
The ruins of Al-Amin Muhammad mosque in Khan Younis
  • Source: The information in the hook is drawn from a few different sources:
  • ALT1: ... that historic sites damaged during the Israeli invasion of Gaza include the oldest mosque and the oldest church in Gaza? Source: Multiple again:
    • Improved to Good Article status by Richard Nevell (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

    Richard Nevell (talk) 21:36, 2 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    MyRadar

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    Created by Johnson524 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 18 past nominations.

    Johnson524 14:52, 2 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Kim Hye-seon

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    • ... that South Korean comedian Kim Hye-seon once went to the hospital before a recording of the sketch comedy show Gag Concert?
    • Reviewed: N/A
    Created by Wuju Daisuki (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Wuju Daisuki (talk) 22:18, 31 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Psycho Mantis

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    https://www.escapistmagazine.com/psycho-mantis-quest-ce-que-cest/
    • "But unfortunately for him, these technological shenanigans work both ways – through he can read every button press on controller 1, controller 2 is a mystery to him. By plugging your controller into the second port, your movements are concealed, leaving Psycho Mantis as little more than a bug-eyed piñata."
    https://www.ign.com/articles/2009/11/17/big-boss-of-the-day-metal-gear-solids-psycho-mantis
    • "Gamers will initially find that Mantis can block all of Snake's attacks with ease. The only solution is to physically switch the controller from one port to another."
    Banks, Jamie; Meija, Robert; Adams, Aubrie (June 23, 2017). 100 Greatest Video Game Characters. Rowman and Littlefield Publishers. pp. 155–156. ISBN 978-1442278127.
    • "After this, Psycho Mantis probes deeper by scanning the player’s physical memory card and commenting on select Konami titles; for example, “You like Castlevania, don’t you?”"
    https://www.escapistmagazine.com/psycho-mantis-quest-ce-que-cest/
    • "He turns every scrap of information into a dirty little secret he dangles over your head, even going so far to bring up other games you’ve played: Castlevania, Suikoden, Vandal Hearts. A remake of the game is on the GameCube, and it’s particularly disconcerting to hear Mantis hiss, as if through clenched teeth, “So … you’ve been playing Super Mario Sunshine, haven’t you?”"
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: Been a while since I've done a nomination, so I hope everything is alright with this nomination.
    Improved to Good Article status by Pokelego999 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 17:43, 31 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Tuhi Martukaw

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    Created by Ornithoptera (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 39 past nominations.

    Ornithoptera (talk) 02:35, 31 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    AdventHealth Daytona Beach

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    Created by Catfurball (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Catfurball (talk) 21:00, 30 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • This is not intended to be a full review and I have no plans of giving this a full review, but a quick look at the article suggests that this is in need of a copyedit. In addition, the current hook probably does not meet WP:DYKINT as not being likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing. A new hook will be needed here, in any case. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    String Quartet No. 16 (Shostakovich)

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    • Source: "The Thirteen-ness of the Thirteenth Quartet" by Iain Strachan in the DSCH Journal (July 2024): "Shostakovich had apparently intended to make a mathematical version of his DSCH signature in the key sequence of his quartets. Given that the musically logical sequence of keys indicated that if the composer had lived to complete a sixteenth quartet, it would have been in B major, this meant that the major key quartets of DSCH would all have been on the quartets whose numbers were perfect squares, namely 4, 9, 1, and 16".
    • ALT1: ... that there is no String Quartet No. 16 by Dmitri Shostakovich? Source: "Shostakovich and the 'Sixteenth Quartet'" by Krzysztof Meyer and Henny van der Groep in the DSCH Journal (July 2014)
    • ALT2: ... that Dmitri Shostakovich's String Quartet No. 16 has three movements, including a lyrical middle, ends with a double fugue, and does not exist? Source: Ibid; "Fifty Years Ago: April–September 1974" by Krzysztof Meyer (translated by Bryan Rowell) in DSCH Journal (July 2024)
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/El Eternauta: tercera parte
    • Comment: QPQ coming soon. For what it's worth, my preference for these ALTs are in reverse order, with ALT2 being my most preferred. Also, is it possible to run this DYK on September 25, for the 118th anniversary of Shostakovich's birth?
    Created by CurryTime7-24 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 48 past nominations.

    CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:20, 30 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. It is properly sourced; as all the sources are offline I am assuming good faith on verification here. ALT0 has a sourcing issue: the reference backing it up comes at the end of the relevant paragraph; according to WP:DYKG, the supporting footnote should be at the latest at the end of the sentence supporting the hook fact, which in this case is the DSCH signature aspect. ALT2 is a rather complicated hook so I'm rather disinclined to approve it. My preferred hook is actually ALT1; however, the article does not actually seem to back it up. The article is unclear if the String Quartet was even started, or if it was started but simply unfinished: if it was the former, then ALT1 is accurate. To be sure, I'm pinging Kingsif and RoySmith regarding ALT1 as both are knowledgeable about quirky hooks and their suitability. If ALT1 is unsuitable, only ALT0 will be approved.
    There is another major concern: the lack of a QPQ. Per a recent discussion, the guidelines have changed so a QPQ should now be provided at the time of the nomination, rather than up to a week afterwards. As such, please provide a QPQ as soon as possible, as the nomination may be failed without further warning if one is not given soon. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:02, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Kingsif and RoySmith: It appears that the above ping did not work for some reason. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:04, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT2 could work, but it's cruising for a pruning, as in ALT2a: ... that Dmitri Shostakovich's String Quartet No. 16 does not exist?--Launchballer 15:35, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thank you all for bearing with me. QPQ is done. May I suggest the following amended ALT?
    ALT2b: ... that Dmitri Shostakovich's String Quartet No. 16 has three movements, but does not exist?
    @Narutolovehinata5: Meyer seems to imply in the transcript of his 1974 visit to Shostakovich and in his 2014 interview that the quartet was never even sketched. However, in the latter he also states ambiguously (emphasis mine): "[A]las, [Shostakovich] was not able to complete the project regarding the Sixteenth [Quartet]". Neither of the articles cited specifically details how much progress, if any, Shostakovich had made on this work at this point or ever. My copy of Meyer's monograph on the composer (in the Spanish translation) is also of no help; his mention of the work therein is even more fleeting. I've looked through the various books by Sofia Khentova, Shostakovich's official biographer, including her massive two-volume biography, which is far more exhausting in detail than any current English language books on the composer. It mentions various obscure odds-and-ends and aborted projects—but no String Quartet No. 16. Derek C. Hulme's Dmitri Shostakovich: The First Hundred Years and Beyond has an entire appendix devoted to such works. Again, no mention of this quartet. I've also not been able to find mention of it in the various Russian language sources in my personal library or in Levon Akopyan's editorial notes in the ongoing New Collected Works Edition of the quartets. For what it's worth, it's probably more likely that Shostakovich never went beyond working through the quartet in his mind. By 1974, his neuro-muscular disorder had made writing extremely difficult and exhausting for him. Consider that he had not even begun to work on the Fifteenth Quartet on April 11, 1974. (Meyer's visit and questioning may have been the catalyst to finally get work on that going: his first extant sketches are dated April 13.) The penmanship in the autograph copy of his last work, the Viola Sonata from July 1975, clearly evinces that it was a struggle just to get the notes to paper. (By this point, he could only write by having his left hand support his right.) Meyer is by far the most informative source on this cryptic work... but, unfortunately, he leaves a number of questions dangling. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 21:20, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Narutolovehinata5, Launchballer, Kingsif, and RoySmith: Pinging as a courtesy. Please let me know if any work remains to be done on this nom. I'll be happy to amend the ALTs further if needed. Would like this to get approved and be included on the DYK for September 25, the 118th anniversary of Shostakovich's birth. Thank you all. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 18:00, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    As much as I really like the "doesn't exist" angle, it seems that the sourcing and circumstances just aren't strong enough to justify it, so regrettably it may have to be dropped. Maybe Theleekycauldron has some more ideas on how to move forward. ALT0 is probably acceptable, but honestly not as good and I doubt it would get as much interest from readers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:30, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Could ALT1 possibly work? The wording is also slightly more ambiguous than the other ALTs, which unequivocally state that the work does not exist at all. There really is no "String Quartet No. 16" insofar as a published piece of music is concerned, but the wording of ALT1 doesn't rule out the fact that unfinished sketches, etc. may exist. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:26, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT1 is actually the sticking point here. The accuracy of the hook depends on how one interprets "there is no String Quartet No. 16." If one means "it was never made", yes it's accurate. If one means "it never existed", then exactly what "exist" means is the issue. The finished product doesn't exist, but as you said there's ambiguity if sketches or work was made. If they did, it technically did exist, if in an unfinished/unreleased state. Even if not, one could argue that it did exist as a concept if not as a composition that was at least attempted, so the hook is too vague and ambiguous. Even if it were to be approved, I can see it going to WP:ERRORS and/or WT:DYK before being pulled. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:54, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Severe Tropical Storm Lionrock (2010)

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    Picture of Lionrock, Kompasu, and Namtheun on August 31.
    Picture of Lionrock, Kompasu, and Namtheun on August 31.
    Created by TheNuggeteer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 21 past nominations.

    🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 14:23, 30 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • The article was initially created using material from the 2010 Pacific typhoon season article. When that happens, per DYK rules, the copied material must be expanded 5x, just as needs to happen with pre-existing articles that are expanded. In this case, 1505 prose characters in have been copied in the current version of Severe Tropical Storm Lionrock (2010), meaning that to qualify for DYK, the article must be 7525 prose characters. At the moment, however, it is only 4068 prose characters, so another 3457 prose characters will need to be added for the article to be eligible for DYK, more than has already been added to the article from the original 2010 material. While that seems unlikely, I've used the "Maybe" icon rather than the "Rejected" icon in case TheNuggeteer believes they can do an expansion in the next week or so. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:12, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    1939 New York World's Fair pavilions and attractions

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    Moved to mainspace by Epicgenius (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 670 past nominations.

    Epicgenius (talk) 14:17, 30 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    No Poop July

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    • ... that the TikTok trend No Poop July garnered backlash from doctors?
    Created by TheNuggeteer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 20 past nominations.

    🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 13:50, 30 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    Diplodus argenteus

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    The Silver porgy, Diplodus argenteus, photographed off the coast of Cabo Frio, Brazil
    The Silver porgy, Diplodus argenteus, photographed off the coast of Cabo Frio, Brazil
    • ... that despite being commonly found off the coast of country, the etymology of Diplodus argenteus' name has nothing to do with Argentina?
    • ALT1 ...that while adult Silver porgies prefer to inhabit the surf zone, juveniles prefer tidepools while sub-adults frequent beds of seagrass? Sources: Wells, V. Carpenter, C. 2011. A Field Guide to Coastal Fishes from Maine to Texas. Baltimore. Johns Hopkins University Press. Robins, C.R. and G.C. Ray, 1986. A field guide to Atlantic coast fishes of North America. Houghton Mifflin Company, Boston, U.S.A. 354 p. Cervigón, F., 1993. Los peces marinos de Venezuela. Volume 2. Fundación Científica Los Roques, Caracas,Venezuela. 497 p.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Huang Shaoqiang
    Created by Ryan shell (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 11 past nominations.

    Ryan shell (talk) 19:10, 2 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General eligibility:

    Policy compliance:

    • Adequate sourcing: No - I will kindly AGF the offline sources, but many parts of the article is unsourced. Paragraph four has an unsourced statement, and the "Biology" paragraph is unsourced; there’s also one ending in "FAO REF?". Ref 1 doesn't specify it's a "gamefish" beyond vague "if fished incidentally" (which doesn't clarify individual scale nor if it's done commercially or recreationally, especially when next to "commercial importance") nor mention angling. I can't seem to find the 2.5g weight in ref 11. Ref 16 doesn’t say “the silver porgy is generally standoffish and seldom approaches divers”; while it says “D. argenteus had always been seen in the gulfs”, it doesn’t go beyond only a few year-round divers identifying the species. "Or anything to do with Argentina's etymology" seems so OR-y and debatable; both of them come from the same Latin word.
    • Neutral: Yes
    • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Yes
    • Other problems: No - “fairly high probably” should be “fairly high probability”
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.

    QPQ: No - None provided.
    Overall: Nom four days after creation and size at 3871. There are several sourcing issues you'll have to fix, as well as a QPQ to provide; see above. Also, it would help if you could provide online links to the refs since it'll make the reviewers' jobs better; I had to find some of them myself with the WP:LIBRARY providing access to some of them, and I’ve linked them in the refs. And please refrain from using redundant sources; I only needed 12/13 to verify one of the claims that also had ref 9 attached. ミラP@Miraclepine 22:13, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I believe I've fixed most of the more pressing issues around left over annotations and poor sourcing. That said, I recognize that there could be a case to be made for OR and have provided an alternative hook, that I am much more in favor of using. In the coming day's I'll probably delete or rewrite problematic areas as I dig up and cross check source problems. Ryan shell (talk) 02:53, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The most pressing issue is the missing QPQ. They are due at the time of nomination and if it is still missing a week later, the nomination will be rejected. Schwede66 18:30, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Just finished QPQ for the nom of Huang Shaoqiang. Not sure if adding it here will suffice or notRyan shell (talk) 20:05, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ryan shell: While the ALT1 seems boring, I'm fine with ALT0 because the issue I raised was on being related to Argentina's etymology but not Argentina the country. That said, while the gamefish issue has been fixed - I crossed off the ref 16 issue because I put in the wrong ref, silly me - no other issues have been resolved and the article still has unsourced paragraphs. BTW I'm pretty sure it's more convenient to add the QPQ in the "Reviewed" line. ミラP@Miraclepine 15:25, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The Cock Destroyers

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    Top: Sophie Anderson in July 2022. Bottom: Rebecca More in July 2021.
    Top: Sophie Anderson in July 2022. Bottom: Rebecca More in July 2021.
    Moved to mainspace by Launchballer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 249 past nominations.

    Launchballer 17:09, 31 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Anaïs Gallagher, Oasis Live '25 Tour

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    Created by Launchballer (talk), Aibo22 (talk), and TheBestEditorInEngland (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 248 past nominations.

    Launchballer 15:28, 31 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    @Launchballer: Since this is a double nomination, you will need to provide an additional QPQ. Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:29, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have. That's a double nom.--Launchballer 05:55, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Apologies for not noticing! Just make it clear in the nomination so that a reviewer will be aware. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:31, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    A reviewer should check before ticking it off, but I've added a note anyway. As for adding an additional QPQ, there's probably just enough room for "that after Liam and Noel Gallagher's band Oasis announced for 2025 "the most controversial band reunion since the Sex Pistols' 1996 Filthy Lucre Tour", Noel's daughter Anaïs Gallagher criticised some fans for ageism and sexism?", so you might get lucky. I should probably write the third article first though.--Launchballer 08:46, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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    Svayamvara

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    The Svayamvara ceremony of princess Damayanti by Warwick Goble, 1913
    The Svayamvara ceremony of princess Damayanti by Warwick Goble, 1913
    • ... that in ancient Indian literature, princesses would select their husbands from a lineup of suitors or through public contests in the distinctive matrimonial tradition called Svayamvara (pictured)?
    • Source: A Dictionary of Hinduism, Oxford Publications "For the daughter of a royal or a kṣatriya family, a way of selecting a husband which takes the form of either of a public contest between her suitors, or an assembly at which the bride-to-be simply chooses between them. Perhaps the best-known instances occur in the Mahābhārata, where Arjuna wins Draupadī by this method, and Damayantī prefers Nala to any of the assembled gods."
    • Brockington, John L (2006). "Epic Svayaṃvaras, Voice of the Orient: a Tribute to Prof. Upendranath Dhal". Academia.edu: 35–42.
    • Reviewed:
    5x expanded by Seyamar (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 06:05, 3 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • : Seems new and long enough, almost entirely written by nominator; I have a few very minor problems with the sourcing that I think can be resolved by just copying some nearby sources, which I tagged: specifically, I think there should be a citation for the 1st paragraph of "Svayamvara in the Rg Veda" and one place in the 1st paragraph of "Damayantī's Svayamvara". Also, I think it would be more clear if the source at the end of the last paragraph of the lead were duplicated to the first two paragraphs as well if it applies to them, and per the DYK guidelines, I think that the source given has to be present at the end of the sentence giving the claim present in the hook. Don't see any neutrality issues. Article is (listing criteria) presentable, image & hook seem good, no other complaints. As for copyvio, not sure what the standards are on manual "spot-checks", so I'm leaving that for a second reviewer. Mrfoogles (talk) 04:59, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @User:Mrfoogles, done what you have suggested.Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 06:23, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    checkY Citation problems seem resolved, all that's left is a copyright check. Mrfoogles (talk) 16:53, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    List of chronic pain syndromes

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    • Source: Mostoufi et al. 2020: "Chronic pain is a pain status that persists beyond a reasonable expected healing period for the involved tissue. It is chronic if it persists for 6 months or more despite active treatment. It is called a syndrome because a constellation of symptoms develops in those patients facing chronic pain."
    • ALT1: ... that chronic pain is a prevalent condition that affects approximately 20% of people and accounts for 15-20% of visits to a physician? Source: Treede et al. 2015: "Chronic pain is a frequent condition, affecting an estimated 20% of people worldwide and accounting for 15% to 20% of physician visits."
    • ALT2: ... that in order to create a classification system for chronic pain, the International Association for the Study of Pain (IASP) collaborated with the World Health Organization (WHO) to form a Task Force for the Classification of Chronic Pain? Source: Treede et al. 2015: "Responding to these shortcomings, the International Association for the Study of Pain (IASP) contacted the WHO and established a Task Force for the Classification of Chronic Pain."
    • ALT3: ... that pain is the most common symptom of cancer at the time of diagnosis? Source: Bennett et al. 2019: "Pain is the commonest symptom of cancer at diagnosis and rises in prevalence throughout and beyond cancer treatment."
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: I have a slight preference for the first two hooks but am fine with any of them being used.
    Created by CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 02:53, 1 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    Pachyballus ornatus

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    • ... that although Pachyballus ornatus is known for its bright pattern, the female is dark and plain while it is still young?
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: An unusual beetle-like jumping spider from Congo and Tanzania.
    5x expanded by Simongraham (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    simongraham (talk) 18:41, 5 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Hi simongraham. This is a more than 5x expansion, well-sourced and written (I've done some copyedits). The hook is, to the best of my ability to understand the source, cited. No QPQ needed. One minor tweak: while the hook is somewhat interesting, I can't help but think it would be more interesting if we said something like "although Pachyballus ornatus is named for its bright pattern ...", unless I'm wrong in thinking that's the case. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 23:51, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Saleh Shahin

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    Created by Schwede66 (talk) and 2603:7000:2101:AA00:1979:BEF5:5AEC:99F4 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 160 past nominations.

    Schwede66 23:18, 3 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Myvanwy Rhys

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    Created by Manxshearwater (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 100 past nominations.

    Lajmmoore (talk) 20:46, 3 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: No - I’m concerned the hook may not be legible to many readers; I am reasonably interested in related topics and still had not heard of Millicent Fawcett, and the entry does not explain.
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Thank you for nominating this interesting and worthy entry! If I could make one general recommendation for making this important topic more accessible to the non-specialist reader, I think regardless of the hook, the entry could benefit from a few words explaining who Fawcett was, and likewise to explain what the Bangor dispute was (currently it’s a bit mysterious). As to the hook, I wonder if it would be more interesting to say something like:

    Tell me what you think. Innisfree987 (talk) 05:34, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    JerAx

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    Jesse (second from the right) with his team during The International 2018
    Jesse (second from the right) with his team during The International 2018
    • ... that Jesse "JerAx" Vainikka was the first Dota 2 player to reach four consecutive Valve Major finals, achieving this milestone with Team Liquid and OG? Source: [24][25]
      • ALT1: ... that Jesse Vainikka, also known as JerAx, became the highest-earning individual player in esports in 2018 after winning two consecutive The International titles with OG in Dota 2? Source: [26]
      • ALT2: ... that Jesse "JerAx" Vainikka auctioned his Team Liquid gaming chair for €5,300 to benefit the charity, Save the Children, surpassing auction prices of signed jerseys from Lionel Messi and Wayne Rooney? Source: [27]
      • Reviewed:
    Created by Jeraxmoira (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 18:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Responding to this: Per MOS:SURNAME: "After the initial mention, a person should generally be referred to by surname only [...] When a majority of reliable secondary sources refer to persons by a pseudonym, they should be subsequently referred to by their pseudonymous surnames, unless they do not include a recognizable surname in the pseudonym (e.g. Sting, Snoop Dogg, the Edge), in which case the whole pseudonym is used. For people well known by one-word names, nicknames, or pseudonyms, but who often also use their legal names professionally – e.g., André Benjamin ("André 3000"), Jennifer Lopez ("J.Lo"); doctor/broadcaster Drew Pinsky ("Dr. Drew") – use the legal surname."
      I checked the article's refs and they all seem to use the pseudonym, at least in their titles. But if we don't want to use the pseudonym, then the surname Vainikka should be used instead of the given name Jesse. (I left this comment here, because it affects this nomination's caption.) 2001:14BA:9C40:0:2898:CC7C:F3E7:9062 (talk) 19:08, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't think it affects the nomination's caption/hook, as I have used both his real name and his in-game name. Let the reviewer decide if the article/hook needs further clarity regarding the surname. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 07:45, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Partial review here: ALT2 seems the most interesting to me, seconded by ALT1; ALT0 is not as interesting without much esports context. Article is new enough, long enough, and written by the nominator. (Don't plan to review rest, just dropping in) Mrfoogles (talk) 06:19, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT2 is above the 200 character limit and needs to be trimmed. Maybe something like:
    ALT2a ... that a gaming chair used by Jesse "JerAx" Vainikka sold at an auction for €5,300, surpassing prices of signed jerseys from Lionel Messi and Wayne Rooney?
    Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:07, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    What about ALT2b: "... that a gaming chair used by Jesse "JerAx" Vainikka sold at a charitable auction for €5,300, surpassing prices of signed jerseys from Lionel Messi and Wayne Rooney?" Also fits within the character limit and mentions that its a charitable auction, which I think is also one of the interesting parts. Changes it from "someone really wanted this gaming chair" to "gaming chairs can be competitive in charitable auctions", kind of. Mrfoogles (talk) 18:06, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Pan He

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    Zhuhai Fisher Girl
    Zhuhai Fisher Girl
    • ... that the Chinese sculptor Pan He used his Reunion to commemorate both the handover of Macau and his return to his beloved cousin?
    • Source: Jiang, Xinchen (November 26, 2020). "潘鹤：渔女之父的珠海情缘" [Pan He: The Father of the Fisherwoman and His Love for Zhuhai]. Southcn.com (in Chinese). China South Publishing & MediaGroup. Archived from the original on September 1, 2024. Retrieved September 1, 2024.
    Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 677 past nominations.

     — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Apologies, I should have said "not a review (and I review oldest first so would not get to this any time soon)". (Not sure why I forgot, I say that literally every other time.)--Launchballer 01:24, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Full review needed for both articles.--Launchballer 01:32, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Haravijaya

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    • ALT1: ... that the Haravijaya has been praised in many Sanskrit anthologies and works on rhetorics? Source: Peter Pasedach 2011 p.6–7.
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: A mahākāvya not studied very often due to its length and technical difficulty. There are a surprising number of gaps in Wikipedia's coverage of Sanskrit and Dharmic literature generally, I'm happy to bring an article from a neglected area to DYK. regards,
    Created by TryKid (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    TryKid [dubious – discuss] 11:23, 2 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    Anna Haifisch

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    Anna Haifisch
    Anna Haifisch
    • ... that the comics character The Artist shares a common temperament with its creator, cartoonist Anna Haifisch (pictured)?
    Created by Munfarid1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 23 past nominations.

    Munfarid1 (talk) 20:13, 6 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Yang Pao-an

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    Yang Pao-an
    Yang Pao-an
    Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 678 past nominations.

     — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:01, 3 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Hymenophyllum axsmithii

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    • ... that the filmy fern Hymenophyllum axsmithii was suggested to be closer in relation to a neotropical species group and not a local native species?
    • Source: Pigg et al (2001) page 804 "Similarly, the new record of Hymenophyllum axsmithii as a member of subgenus Sphaerocionium and morphologic similarities to extant epiphytic humid tropical montane forest species of Sphaerocionium highlight climatic and biogeographical linkages between the early Eocene Okanogan Highlands of the Pacific Northwest of North America and the Neotropics. ...the family in the region, which today hosts a single species, Hymenophyllum wrightii" (in a different subgenus per Chang et al 2022 " Subgenus Mecodium"
    • ALT1: ... that researchers want Hymenophyllum axsmithii rhizomes so they can tell if the filmy fern was up a tree? Source: Pigg et al (2021) page 803 "Currently, the fossil record for Hymenophyllaceae reviewed in this article is not sufficiently robust, particularly with respect to critical features of the rhizome, to establish the presence of an epiphytic growth form. ... Clearly, finding additional fossil representatives of Hymenophyllaceae with rhizomes will be essential for documenting the origin and evolution of the epiphytic growth habit within this family.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Strobilanthes tonkinensis
    Moved to mainspace by Kevmin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 358 past nominations.

    Kevmin § 20:21, 3 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    The Nualas

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    Created by Bogger (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 26 past nominations.

    Bogger (talk) 14:00, 3 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    Hurry Up Tomorrow

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    Created by AskeeaeWiki (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    𝘮𝘪𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘦𝘭'𝘴 𝘥𝘦𝘢𝘳 𝘮𝘦𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘺, 16:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Gigi Perez, Sailor Song (song)

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    Moved to mainspace by Launchballer (talk), Ss112 (talk), MC-123 (talk), and Heartleap (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 250 past nominations.

    Launchballer 09:11, 5 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: No - Not a super surprising thing for a songwriter to say

    QPQ: No - Not done
    Overall: Recognize that QPQs are coming up, so this is a bit early; only issue is I feel like the hook could be a bit more interesting. Mrfoogles (talk) 17:18, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Proposing ALT1: "... that songwriter Gigi Perez first went viral for a song on TikTok, where she had begun to upload videos to cope with her grief?". Maybe Gigi Perez could use ALT1, and Sailor Song could use ALT0, if it is possible to add two DYKs with one nomination? Also, since I'm new, if anyone wanted to double-check my copyvio checking that would be appreciated (not that I think there is any). Mrfoogles (talk) 17:29, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello. You can definitely split up a nomination post hoc - see Talk:Lucy Tun for one such example - however hook interestingness does not depend on topic, so if it isn't good enough for Gigi, it won't be good enough for Sailor Song. I've taken the liberty of renumbering your ALT0a to ALT1 as it introduces new information, and would suggest ALT1a: that the "Sailor Song" songstress Gigi Perez first began uploading content to TikTok to cope with grief? - but you will still need a new reviewer for that. I do however wonder if it's worth leaving 'not a democracy' out of ALT0 and running the rest, i.e. ALT0a: ... that the lyrics of Gigi Perez's "Sailor Song" received criticism from far-right conservative Christian communities?--Launchballer 22:41, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, I have no idea what you mean by "QPQs are coming up" - I've done everything required by WP:DYKRI.--Launchballer 15:18, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on September 5

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    Come In (Weatherday album)

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    • ... that several characters from a webcomic Weatherday wrote appear in their album Come In?
    • Source: [28] "The album as a whole is set up like my webcomic which I sort of based things from the album on along with my own life. The character Agatha is from that comic and same with Oswald and Ines."
    • ALT1: ... that after the original run sold out, vinyl copies of Come In were put up for sale on Discogs for as much as $100? Source: [29] "Last year, U.S. indie label Topshelf, a crucial fourth-wave emo outlet, dropped a double-LP reissue of Come In, and the whole run of 2,000 sold out—if you want a pristine copy, be prepared to pony up $100 on Discogs."
    • ALT2: ... that Come In was recorded on a hands-free microphone attached to a pair of headphones? Source: [30] "I used the headphone mic because I didn’t have a better one and thought I could do without one."
      Album liner notes (viewable on Bandcamp) "Honorable mention to the hands-free mic attached to my headphones which I recorded this album on"
    • ALT3: ... that Come In was inspired by a webcomic that Weatherday wrote? Source: [31] "Mio is a character from a webcomic I made back in 2016-2017 [...] I used Mio on the album cover cause I drew inspiration from the webcomic when I was making the album"
      [32] "The album as a whole is set up like my webcomic which I sort of based things from the album on along with my own life."
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    Moved to mainspace by OhHaiMark (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    LeMeilleurMiel (talk) 21:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Moses da Rieti

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    cc @User:GordonGlottal Andre🚐 19:31, 7 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Or you could just replace "terza rima" with "rhyming verse form" in the hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:14, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sure. Andre🚐 18:31, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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    Articles created/expanded on September 6

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    Empirical Labs Distressor

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    Two Empirical Labs Distressors
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    Moved to mainspace by The Midnite Wolf (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    The Midnite Wolf (talk) 11:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Michael Sugrue

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    • ... that Michael Sugrue became an "internet phenomenon" during the COVID-19 pandemic for his lectures on YouTube covering "the last 3,000 years of Western intellectual history” recorded in 1992?
    • Source: "Michael Sugrue, 66, Dies; His Talks on Philosophy Were a YouTube Hit

    After an academic career spent in near obscurity, he became an internet phenomenon during the pandemic by uploading talks he had given three decades earlier.

    The college lecturer, in a uniform of rumpled khakis and corduroy blazer, paces on a small stage, head down. “The lectures you’re about to see,” he says in introducing a series of talks, videotaped in somewhat hokey lo-fi style in 1992, “cover the last 3,000 years of Western intellectual history.""

    NY Times
    Moved to mainspace by Thriley (talk), GuardianH (talk), and Etyuxdy (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 142 past nominations.

    Thriley (talk) 17:49, 10 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    1917 Łódź City Council election

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    Campaign poster for the 1917 Łódź City Council election
    • ... that whilst socialists got 31% of the votes in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (campaign poster pictured), they only won five seats due to a curiae system implemented by the German authorities?
    • Source: Telma Tadeusz. Pierwsze wybory do Rady Miejskiej m. Łodzi, in Rocznik Łódzki, Vol. 11 (14). Państwowe Wydawnictwu Naukowe, 1966. pp. 134, 138-146, Antoni Goerne. Wybory do Rady Miejskiej w Lodzi w styczniu 1917, in Informator m Lodzi z kalendarzem na rok 1919. pp. 76-83
    Moved to mainspace by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 396 past nominations.

    Soman (talk) 11:08, 6 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • I'm not taking on the review, but just leaving a comment, as I'm puzzled. Without context, this may not be hook-notable I believe. The question left unaddressed is five seats out of how many. If it is five seats out of 15, this would seen rather non-notable. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:F804:C954:1D4C:5D11 (talk) 03:51, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • I went back and forth on the wording of the sentence, but with the 200 characters cap it is difficult to get all nuances and factoids included. For me "only five" implies that it is less than proportional, but a rewording could be to replace "five seats" with "8%". --Soman (talk) 10:37, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    General eligibility:

    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    Image eligibility:

    • Freely licensed: No - The licensing is incorrect, at issue is not the photograph copyright but the poster itself ({{PD-1923}} in the United States, not sure about Poland)—then you can use {{PD-scan}}
    • Used in article: Yes
    • Clear at 100px: No - all you can see is a number 5
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: The article looks mostly fine, but I'm not sure about the hook. Non-proportional electoral systems are typical outside of continental Europe, where proportional representation based systems are more common. First past the post can cause equal amount of distortion. (t · c) buidhe 04:06, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    But the hook states that the reasons for the disproportionality is the curiae system, which is arguably something different from FPTP dynamics. The curia system would be very weird present-day, to explicitly discriminate in favour of the wealthiest. There are some alternate takes on the on the hook, like ALT1 "... that while 55% of the voters in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) were working class, they only got 10 out of 60 seats due to a curiae system implemented by the German authorities?" or ALT2 ... that the curiae-based electoral system used by German occupation authorities in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) disproportionally favoured the non-socialist Jewish parties? Now ALT2 would require a bit of a rewrite in article and need another image though. --Soman (talk) 19:23, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Regarding the clarity of image, I selected precisely because it had symbolism that was readable even at 100px. I don't think we'd expect people to read the fine print, but in 100px the number 5 is clearly visible (5 times) and the largest text is readable ('vote for our list'). The designer of the poster wanted that a reader catch the number 5 clearly even from a distance. --Soman (talk) 19:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    My point is that many electoral systems intentionally or not result in disproportionate seats for certain parties at the expense of others, thus it cannot really be a surprising fact that this particular electoral system has that result. (t · c) buidhe 19:19, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Again, this is not comparable to the issues from FPTP or STV electoral systems. Here was a case where an electoral system was explicitly designed to give a absolute majority to the wealthiest sections of society, with the explicit and publicly stated goal of ensuring a stable conservative majority. Now at the time the principle 1 citizen 1 vote was not universal by any means, but for present-day readers this is certainly something that would raise eyebrows. --Soman (talk) 21:50, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I know a bit about how pre-German Revolution electoral systems worked in Germany (and as you've written here, applied to occupied territories), but the average reader doesn't. So I think if you are going to take that angle, it needs to be more clear in the hook. (t · c) buidhe 22:53, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Tempered chocolate

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    • Source: Pirouzian et al. (2020), pg. 2: "The addition of the sugar particles promoted the formation of polymorphs with lower melting points. It was suggested that the sugar acted as a heterogeneous nucleation agent, prolonging the nucleation and growth of cocoa butter crystals since foreign surfaces acted as nucleation sites for crystallization"
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    Converted from a redirect by Rollinginhisgrave (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 11:05, 6 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on September 7

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    Nan Nan Resources

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    • Source: In 2011, the company would change its identity twice. First to International Resources Enterprise Limited in April, and then to Nan Nan Resources Enterprise Limited in October.
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: This is my first ever DYK nomination. Please give feedback to help make it better.
    Created by DarthCloakedGuy (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    DarthCloakedGuy (talk) 12:38, 12 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Yumeshima Station

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    ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 03:48, 10 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    The Anacrusis

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    • ALT1: ... that video game The Anacrusis is named for the musical term, the players caught up in an alien invasion "in the beats before [it] turns to soldiers, pilots, and space fighters"? Source: GameSpot
    • ALT2: ... that The Anacrusis was the debut video game by Stray Bombay, a studio co-founded by Left 4 Dead writer Chet Faliszek? Source: IGN
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Terrace on the Park
    • Comment: The first hook was chosen because the game has an interesting name which readers may not be familiar with. ALT1 is a longer version with more context, but maybe clunky/long. ALT2 goes a different route, Left 4 Dead is highly regarded and popular (and the subject is widely noted to be similar), so this could draw readers in.
    Created by Hahnchen (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

    hahnchen 01:55, 10 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Teleke Lauti

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    • ... that politician Teleke Lauti unseated a former Prime Minister with a campaign managed by a former Prime Minister?
    • ALT1: ... that politician Teleke Lauti unseated a former Prime Minister, was unseated himself by a future Prime Minister, and later ran again to replace a former Prime Minister? Source: same for 'unseated a former Prime Minister'; lost to Latasi and Kausea Natano (future PM) in 2002 (could add another source verifying Natano as being a future PM if needed); Fenui News for running to replace a former PM (Latasi in 2018)
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Edward J. York
    • Comment: Open to other ways of wording. Would like it if it could be featured by the end of the month, prior to the end of the Wikipedia:2024 Developing Countries WikiContest (since I'm competing with the Tuvalu flag).
    Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 246 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:02, 10 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    48th Hong Kong International Film Festival

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    Created by Prince of Erebor (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 15 past nominations.

    Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 14:37, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    References

    1. ^ "國際電影節突取消放映《去年煙花特別多》 陳果感可惜：咩都可以發生" [[Hong Kong] International Film Festival Suddenly Cancels Screening of The Longest Summer — Fruit Chan Expresses Regret: Anything Could Happen.]. Ming Pao (in Chinese). 9 March 2024. Retrieved 7 September 2024. 原定在第四十八屆香港國際電影節中放映的《去年煙花特別多》日前突然取消，主辦方指「因找不到合適拷貝而未能放映」，改爲放映電影《墮胎師》。該電影由本港獨立電影導演陳果執導，他回覆本報查詢說，對於《去年》未能放映感到可惜，又稱近日才接獲電影節通知指沒有菲林拷貝而取消放映，不清楚是否涉及其他原因。《去年》於1998年上映，與《香港製造》及《細路祥》合稱「九七三部曲」，以香港主權移交及華裔英兵故事作爲背景，電影中亦穿插主權移交及解放軍入城等片段。 [The screening of The Longest Summer, originally scheduled for the 48th Hong Kong International Film Festival, was suddenly canceled. The organizers stated that it could not be shown "due to the inability to locate suitable copies", and the film The Abortionist will be screened instead. Directed by local independent filmmaker Fruit Chan, he responded to [Ming Pao's] inquiry by expressing regret that The Longest Summer could not be screened. He mentioned that he only recently received notification from the festival that there were no film copies available, and he is unsure if there are other reasons involved. The Longest Summer was released in 1998 and is part of the "1997 Trilogy," along with Made in Hong Kong and Little Cheung. It sets against the backdrop of Hong Kong's sovereignty handover and stories of Chinese-ethnic British soldiers. The film also features segments about the handover and the arrival of the People's Liberation Army.]
    2. ^ "「找不到合適拷貝」 國際電影節撤播《去年煙花特別多 》" ["Unable to Find Suitable Copies": International Film Festival Withdraws Screening of The Longest Summer.]. Ming Pao (in Chinese). 10 March 2024. Archived from the original on 9 September 2024. Retrieved 7 September 2024. 第48屆香港國際電影節本月28日開幕，由獨立電影導演陳果執導的《去年煙花特別多》突然被取消放映，改為放映同由陳果執導的《墮胎師》。主辦方在電影節節目及訂票手冊中稱「因找不到合適拷貝而未能放映」。陳果昨回覆本報稱，對於《去》未能放映感可惜，近日才接獲電影節通知稱沒有菲林拷貝而取消放映，不清楚是否涉其他原因。翻查資料，《去》曾於2017年在香港藝術中心古天樂電影院放映，當年主辦方與今屆電影節主辦方同為香港國際電影節協會（HKIFF）。《去》2021年也曾在兆基創意書院放映室放映，播放的是35mm菲林拷貝。 [The 48th Hong Kong International Film Festival opened on the 28th of this month. The screening of The Longest Summer, directed by independent filmmaker Fruit Chan, was suddenly canceled, and it was replaced with The Abortionist, also directed by Fruit Chan. The organizers stated in the festival program and ticketing booklet that it could not be screened "due to the inability to locate suitable copies". Chan expressed regret over the cancellation of The Longest Summer, stating that he only recently received notification from the festival that there were no film copies available and is unsure if there are other reasons involved. According to records, The Longest Summer was previously screened in 2017 at the Hong Kong Arts Centre's Gigi Leung Cinema, with the same organizers as this year's festival, the Hong Kong International Film Festival Society (HKIFF). The film was also screened in 2021 at Lee Shau Kee School of Creativity, using a 35mm film copy.]
    3. ^ Lo, Zabrina (20 March 2024). "Karena Lam on the lack of gender equality in the local film industry, and her ambassadorships with French May and Hong Kong International Film Festival". Tatler Asia. Archived from the original on March 29, 2024. Retrieved 7 September 2024. To say Taiwanese Canadian actress Karena Lam has a packed calendar is an understatement. This year, she replaces Aaron Kwok as the ambassador of the Hong Kong International Film Festival which will take place from March 28 to April 8—becoming the second woman to be offered this position since actress Miriam Yeung in 2011.

    Flag of Falcón state, Monument to the Venezuelan Federation

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    Flag of Falcón state
    Flag of Falcón state
    Created by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 398 past nominations.

    Soman (talk) 14:16, 8 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    New York Hall of Science

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    The New York Hall of Science
    The New York Hall of Science
    5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 673 past nominations.

    Epicgenius (talk) 19:16, 7 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Victor Albisu

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    Albisu prepares risotto in 2010
    Albisu prepares risotto in 2010
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    • "Albisu, who grew up in nearby Annandale" ARLnow
    • "Bulgogi Bullfight taco pays tribute to Annandale's Koreatown with bulgogi-style pork and Brussels-sprout kimchee." Washingtonian
    Created by Innisfree987 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 38 past nominations.

    Innisfree987 (talk) 07:26, 7 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Interesting hook but slight problems that could be resolved before I can complete a final confirmation for it to be approved for DYK. In the hook, it mentions "lbisu created a bulgogi taco honoring the Koreatown neighborhood of his hometown of Annandale, Virginia". But in the article, it states Washingtonian magazine described the Vienna menu as a “love letter to Northern Virginia”, with a “7 Corners Shrimp” taco honoring Eden Center’s hub of Vietnamese restaurants and “Bulgogi Bullfight” drawing on Annandale’s Koreatown neighborhood. Could you edit the article to state the hook directly so that the viewers can easily view and understand it? (eg.Albisu created the “Bulgogi Bullfight”, a taco which honored the Koreatown neighborhood of his hometown of Annandale, Virginia.) Other than that, all else is good. - Toadboy123 (talk) 14:26, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Abraham Hamadeh

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    • Comment: My first DYK nomination, I'm confident I did this right but I'm still welcome to suggestions!
    5x expanded by DukeOfDelTaco (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    DukeOfDelTaco (talk) 05:45, 7 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on September 8

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    Tore Skeie

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    • ... that Tore Skeie's first book, written while he faced severe financial hardship, won him a prize of NOK 100,000?
    Created by Kimikel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 18 past nominations.

    Kimikel (talk) 00:21, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Spearfishing at the Micronesian Games

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    Created by Sahaib (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 33 past nominations.

    Sahaib (talk) 18:52, 8 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Full review needed.--Launchballer 19:25, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Baguia Fort

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    Created by Chipmunkdavis (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 44 past nominations.

    CMD (talk) 11:26, 8 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Jewish dairy restaurant

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    Andre🚐 09:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on September 9

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    Funnyback

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    1928 Funnyback
    1928 Funnyback
    • ... that people referred to the 1928 US$1 silver certificate as a Funnyback (pictured)?
    Moved to mainspace by Bruxton (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 154 past nominations.

    Bruxton (talk) 21:59, 10 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Catharina Weiss

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    Catharina Weiss
    Created by Hawkeye7 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 432 past nominations.

    Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:22, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Intriguing hook, although the only mention in the article for chocolate is "the Rolling Chocolate in Heidelburg", which a) isn't the same thing unless you have another source saying they're sometimes called that for short and b) lacks an end-of-sentence citation.--Launchballer 20:29, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Alison Creagh

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    Alison Creagh
    Created by Hawkeye7 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 431 past nominations.

    Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:09, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Santa (singer)

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    Santa sings Vivre pour le Meilleur
    Santa sings Vivre pour le Meilleur
    Created by Hawkeye7 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 430 past nominations.

    Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:04, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    David de Pomis

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    Created by Andrevan (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

    Andre🚐 01:03, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Middlesex Regiment alien labour units

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    • Source: Although all eight were described as "Alien" companies, the originals were formed from the sons of foreign nationals, however from 1918 actual foreign nationals were used to form three companies , see eg: "the Director of Labour in France was informed that all Russians and other aliens whom 'it was not desirable to retain with fighting units' were to be sent to the Middlesex Regiment base depot at Etaples. Apart from the Russians, they were to be posted to the Middlesex Infantry Labour Companies ... This enabled three more Middlesex Labour companies to be formed." from: Messenger, Charles (30 April 2015). Call to Arms: The British Army 1914-18. Orion. p. 121. ISBN 978-1-78022-759-7.
    Created by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 875 past nominations.

    Dumelow (talk) 11:26, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on September 10

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    Pituamkek National Park Reserve

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    Moved to mainspace by Ivanvector (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:42, 11 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    QPQ: No - Not done
    Overall: New enough, long enough, sourced and neutral, Earwig detects no copyvio issues other than long names and quoted passages, the hook is interesting. I am awaiting the QPQ as mentioned by the nominator. Ivanvector I want to clarify with you the value of "4,000 years" mentioned in the hook. I see a value of 3000 years as mentioned by "suggest the possible presence of a drowned site dating within the Woodland Period (which spans from about 3000 years ago to the recent historic period)." but I'm not sure whether the "to the recent historic period" is inclusive of an additional thousand years or not, I am not familiar with the terminology enough to make my own determination. Ornithoptera (talk) 21:44, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Margaret Reid (politician)

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    5x expanded by Reidgreg (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 23 past nominations.

    Reidgreg (talk) 12:43, 10 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Actually, looking at the article, I'm surprised the following wasn't proposed:
    ALT1 ... that Margaret Reid was the first woman to serve as President of the Australian Senate? (Source: "Rising Above the Genteel Rumble of the Pink Palace" Canberra Times at ProQuest 1016152950 (via Wikipedia Library) "She made Australian political history on August 20, 1996 when she became the first woman President of the Senate."
    Although a "first" hook (a kind of hook that has been discouraged on DYK as of late), it is one that should be relatively easy to verify/support and thus not as an exceptional of a claim as most other "first" hooks. In addition, it's the highlight of her career, but more importantly, probably more interesting to a broad audience than just merely losing an election then winning/being appointed again later. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:23, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, ALT1 looks good to me; I've added a source already cited in the article at that sentence (in the body). She had some other "firsts" (first and only president representing a territory, first female deputy president, and I thought first female whip though I'm not finding a source on that right now) but only included the major one so as not to emphasize this too much per WP:FIRSTWOMAN. I wouldn't put it in the lead sentence, but it seems fine to me for DYK. If there are objections, though, I don't mind withdrawing the nomination. I also piped women to Women in the Australian Senate if that's alright. – Reidgreg (talk) 13:05, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Abdur Rahman Mahmudi

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    Abdur Rahman Mahmudi
    • ... that imprisoned Afghan politician Abdur Rahman Mahmudi (pictured) would write poems using onion juice as ink in his jail cell?
    • Source: Louis Dupree. Red Flag Over Hindu Kush: Leftist movements in Afghanistan. AUFS, 1979. p. 17
    Moved to mainspace by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 399 past nominations.

    Soman (talk) 10:51, 10 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    KAUT-TV

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    Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 08:32, 10 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Hugh Bunel

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    • Source: "Hugh Bunel, who murdered Mabel of Bellême, found himself pursued for years. Orderic tells us that Hugh fled first to Apulia, then to Sicily, and from there to the service of the Byzantine emperor Alexios Comnenos. But wherever Hugh went he was pursued by the threats and bribes of King William and Mabel's sons, who 'promised rewards and gifts to any spies who could kill the exiled assassin in whatever land they might find him', And so Hugh left Christendom altogether and lived among the Saracens for twenty years until, during the First Crusade, he appeared before Robert Curthose at the siege of Jerusalem and offered him his help and service in counsel and battle." from: Hagger, Mark S. (2017). Norman Rule in Normandy, 911-1144. Boydell & Brewer. p. 450. ISBN 978-1-78327-214-3.
    Created by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 876 past nominations.

    Dumelow (talk) 07:01, 10 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    Johannesteijsmannia lanceolata

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    Table Saw, Leng Guan; Chan, Yoke Mui (January 2009). "The Uses of Johannesteijsmannia by Indigenous Communities and the Current Ornamental Trade in the Genus". Palms. 53 (3): 147–152. Retrieved 11 September 2024.
      • Reviewed: Pituamkek National Park Reserve
      • Comment: Tan and Lee refer to kenduri as a "celebration feast", Yoke Mui Chan identifies this specifically as kenduri in the table provided (citation 2, "The Uses of Johannesteijsmannia by Indigenous Communities and the Current Ornamental Trade in the Genus", in this nomination). Thank you in advance to the reviewer for their time, I will provide a QPQ hopefully later today. Done!
    Created by Ornithoptera (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 42 past nominations.

    Ornithoptera (talk) 21:22, 11 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • This is new enough and long enough. QPQ done. Some copyediting is needed to reduce close paraphrasing from the most-used source. I also think a new hook is needed. The hook suggests the selective collection is universal, while the article states this is only for the Orang Asli of Negeri Sembilan. If a fact is to be made about a group or groups of Orang Asli, I am unsure why the Malay name would be used in the hook. Lastly, the linked kenduri article suggests that the practice is Javanese, which is quite removed from Negeri Sembilan Orang Asli. CMD (talk) 08:58, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hi Chipmunkdavis! Thank you for taking the time to read through the article, I will try my best to address your concerns and see what we can do to resolve your concerns:
    1. "Some copyediting is needed" I will work to resolve this in a few, I will reply to this once completed. It should be resolved now.
    2. "Orang Asli of Negeri Sembilan." I will propose an updated hook, or workshop an ALT1 to address this concern if that could help.
    3. "I am unsure why the Malay name would be used in the hook." Tan and Lee identify the language as Malay, and the Orang Asli communities presumably used Malay when communicating with Yoke Mui Chan. I can also just refer to J. lanceolata as the "slender joey", but the vagueness of chica could be hook-ier.
    4. "the linked kenduri article suggests that the practice is Javanese" Kenduri is in fact not exclusively Javanese, it is practiced in Malaysia as well. Per Britannica: "important life events ... are usually celebrated by a feast, known in Malay as kenduri ... In rural areas the kenduri is normally held at the house of the host family." I'm assuming that the original author of the Wiki article was or is more familiar with the practice in an Indonesian context but both countries have kenduri, and Saw and Chan explicitly identify the practice as kenduri.
    Hope this can address all the bases outlined by your concerns. Thank you for your time! Ornithoptera (talk) 23:55, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Examples that are too close text-wise:
    • "Compared to related species, the leaves of the Slender Joey are narrower"/"Compared to other species in the same genus, the leaves of this species are narrower"
    • "The leaves of the palm were used by local Indigenous peoples for roof thatching"/"The leaves of this palm are used by the local indigenous people for making roof thatch"
    More broadly, the Description section has copied the structure of the source, each sentence mirroring the source's sentence placement.
    To clarify, I don't object to the Malay name per se, it's just that when reading about an Orang Asli tradition I would expect to see nouns from their indigenous language. However, you make a good point that they are likely to have communicated with others in Malay.
    Would you be able to make a very small edit to kenduri based on your knowledge, so that its use in the hook will make sense to readers? Then we could also specify that the hook refers to the Orang Asli of Negeri Sembilan and the hook concept will work. CMD (talk) 03:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Pabhāvatī

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    A painting of Pabhāvatī.
    A painting of Pabhāvatī.
    Created by Hteiktinhein (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Hteiktinhein (talk) 11:45, 11 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Shin Iza Gawna

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    Created by Hteiktinhein (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Hteiktinhein (talk) 09:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Lisa Blatt

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    • ... that Lisa Blatt is the first woman to argue 50 cases in the US Supreme Court—over 80% of them wins—and that she "elicits laughs and the occasional sharp response from the justices"?
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    Improved to Good Article status by SilverLocust (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    SilverLocust 💬 00:51, 11 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]


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    Danton Barto

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    • ... that despite still being the Memphis Tigers' all-time leading tackler over 30 years after his college career ended, Danton Barto never made it to the NFL?
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    Created by WikiOriginal-9 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:44, 12 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Niederdollendorf stone, Grésin plaque, Landelinus buckle

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    Niederdollendorf stone
    Niederdollendorf stone
    • Source: Friedrich, Matthias (2023). "The Enduring Power of Images". Image and Ornament in the Early Medieval West. Cambridge University Press. pp. 37–104. (Gresin: p. 64; Landelinus: p. 54; Niederdollendorf, p. 47).
    Created by Tenpop421 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

    Tenpop421 (talk) 23:10, 12 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Comment: Grésin plaque and Landelinus buckle created; Niederdollendorf stone expanded 5x. Three interesting artefacts and quite a striking Christ image.

    Benjamin Franklin Shumard

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    Oak species named after Benjamin F. Shumard
    Oak species named after Benjamin F. Shumard
    • ... that an assistant to Texas chief geologist Benjamin Franklin Shumard named an oak species in his honor, but then foiled his reinstatement after he was let go by newly-elected Governor Sam Houston?
    • Source: in his honor: Buckley, Samuel Botsford (1860). "Description of Several New Species of Plants". Proc. Acad. Nat. Sci. Philadelphia. 12 (published 1861): 443–445 – via JSTOR.

    got him fired, see page 7, line 4 of this source: Roessler, A. R. "Reply to the charges made by SB Buckley, State Geologist of Texas, in his official report of 1874, against Dr. BF Shumard and AR Roessler." (1875). https://repositories.lib.utexas.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/bc3d474b-4e53-4980-8240-9b48ba20b33d/content

    see also: p.144 (p2 of pdf): Young, Keith (1994-01-01). "The Shumards in Texas". Earth Sciences History. 13 (2): 143–153.
      • ALT1: ... that Texas chief geologist Benjamin Franklin Shumard had an oak species named in his honor by an assistant in 1860, who then stymied Shumard's reappointment by Texas Governor Sam Houston? Source: same as above, trying different wording
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    Created by ProfGray (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    ProfGray (talk) 18:18, 12 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    The Taehongdang Party Secretary

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    Created by Chipmunkdavis (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 45 past nominations.

    CMD (talk) 17:27, 12 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Passmore Edwards Centre

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    The Passmore Edwards Centre
    The Passmore Edwards Centre
    • Source: "the building was a gift to Newton Abbot from Passmore Edwards, a noted public benefactor, in memory of his mother." from: "Adult Education Centre and Library". National Heritage List for England. Historic England. Retrieved 10 September 2024.
    Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 879 past nominations.

    Dumelow (talk) 15:25, 12 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Superfest

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    • ... that East Germany made almost unbreakable glass?
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    Created by Allied Panzer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Allied Panzer (talk) 14:19, 12 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Hi Allied Panzer, thanks for your nomination. Unfortunately Superfest is not currently eligible to appear in the Did You Know section. You can read our requirements for nominations at Wikipedia:Did you know/Guidelines. For this to be eligible it would need to be a new article; significantly expanded (by more than 5x) or be recently promoted to WP:Good article status. Additionally Superfest has been tagged as requiring additional citations, this would need to be addressed before a mainpage appearance. If you have any questions about the process I am more than happy to answer them. Thanks and all the best - Dumelow (talk) 14:34, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Archcliffe Fort

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    Archcliffe Fort entrance
    Archcliffe Fort entrance
    • ... that Archcliffe Fort (entrance pictured) in Dover, England, the site of which has served a defensive purpose since the mediaeval period, is now used by a homeless charity?
    • Source: "In 1370, a watchtower surrounded by a chalk bank and ditch had been built on the site of the present Archcliffe Fort ... Today, what remains of the stronghold is used by the Emmaus Community, a charitable group working to help homeless people by providing accommodation and work for them." from: Lepage, Jean-Denis G. G. (20 July 2023). British Fortifications, 1485-1945: An Illustrated History. McFarland. p. 105. ISBN 978-1-4766-8971-5.
    • ALT1: ... that much of Archcliffe Fort(entrance pictured) in Dover, England, was demolished in the 1920s to allow for expansion of a railway? Source: "In the 1920s, the southern half of the fort was demolished to make way for a railway line." from the same source as ALT0
    • ALT2: ... that in 1666 soldiers at Archcliffe Fort (entrance pictured) in Dover, England, lit fires, fired cannons and rang bells as a precaution against the plague? Source: "In 1666, with the Great Plague at its height, the terrified garrison lit fires, fired guns and rang bells to keep the dreaded disease at bay." from: Ingleton, Roy (19 January 2013). Fortress Kent. Casemate Publishers. pp. 148–151. ISBN 978-1-78303-606-6.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Pete Wade
    Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 878 past nominations.

    Dumelow (talk) 11:00, 12 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    U Wasawa

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    Created by Hteiktinhein (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Hteiktinhein (talk) 09:51, 12 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Celebrity Number Six

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    Created by Theleekycauldron (talk) and Tamzin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 73 past nominations.

    theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 05:30, 12 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Can you point out where in the article the hook's information is present? I can find sources for the start and end dates, but don't see any definitive statement she was unaware of it the whole time. Mrfoogles (talk) 04:46, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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    Special occasion holding area

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    See also: WP:SOHA

    The holding area is near the top of the Approved page. Please only place approved templates there; do not place them below.

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    Please add a documentation subpage to Template:Did you know. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:13, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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